Laptop advice needed pls

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hey ppl, id like to purchase a laptop n i need some advice , i want to be able to play games on it n it must have an overall good performance

so wat makes do i stay away from? i think with the processor ill only be looking for pentium M or duo core, no celeron for me ,

the specs id look at is possibly as follows

intel pentium m or duo core (about 1.5 gigs)
at least a gig ram
wireless LAN
dvd writer
mid range graphics card
about 120gigs hard drive(i dont mind going less)
warranty

the following is optional n not so important:
webcam
card reader

wat else should i be looking at? one of the things im stuck with is the graphics card, wat should i look for or wat should the specs be?

thx in advance for any advice :)

P.S i have a budget of about R6000 and dont mind buying second hand
 
For a gaming laptop u are going to need a bigger budget than that.The entry level laptops are for that price not really a gaming laptop.
Make that at least 2-4gigs of ram.
 
You will never be able to play new games with a R6k laptop.

You can however get everything you asked for in a Sahara notebook:
Core Duo 1.73GHz
1GB RAM
120GB
WLAN

For about R4700

OR:

Fujitsu V5505

Celeron 2.23Ghz
1GB RAM
120GB
WLAN
Bluetooth, Webcam, Card reader

R5000

But as CrzWaco said, for gaming (after 2005 games) you need a bigger budget
 
Yup a gaming laptop is gonna cost a whole lot more than 6k...

Check this one out tho, pretty decent spec:
http://www.discountshopping.co.za/DELL/Dell-Vostro-A860-VOSA860/1B.html

Vostro A860 Intel Dual Core T2390 (1.8GHz),
1GB, 120GB, DVD-Writer, 15.6" WXGA Screen,
Windows Vista Home Basic
Features: Bluetooth, 56K v.92 Modem,
Intel X3100+ Graphics, VGA Port
2 X USB 2.0, 1 X IEEE 1394a, 3 in 1 Card Reader,
PC Card Slot, RJ45 (10/100), Wi-Fi
Warranty: 1Year Collect Repair and Return.



Try http://forums.prophecy.co.za/f7/ for secondhand laptops
 
Yup a gaming laptop is gonna cost a whole lot more than 6k...

Check this one out tho, pretty decent spec:
http://www.discountshopping.co.za/DELL/Dell-Vostro-A860-VOSA860/1B.html

Vostro A860 Intel Dual Core T2390 (1.8GHz),
1GB, 120GB, DVD-Writer, 15.6" WXGA Screen,
Windows Vista Home Basic
Features: Bluetooth, 56K v.92 Modem,
Intel X3100+ Graphics, VGA Port
2 X USB 2.0, 1 X IEEE 1394a, 3 in 1 Card Reader,
PC Card Slot, RJ45 (10/100), Wi-Fi
Warranty: 1Year Collect Repair and Return.
 
You should rather go for a Core 2 Duo, instead of a Core Duo or Pentium M. You will find that the Core 2 Duo is Streets ahead of the others.

Notebook processors fall into three main categories:
1) Budget processors: These are the Celerons and Pentium Dual-Cores of the world. They are often stripped-down versions of more expensive processors. These processors are usually too slow for and real gaming, but they will be able to run most office applications. Not recommended for multi-tasking.
2) Mainstream processors: These are the Core 2 Duos and high-end AMD processors of the world. These processors are adequate for pretty much any game, since your bottleneck will most likely be the graphics in your notebook. These processors will be able to handle any office application you throw at them, and then some. Recommended for multi-tasking.
3) Enthusiast processors: These are the high-end Core 2 Duos. The AMDs don't really feature in this segment at the moment. Enthusiasts are looking for performance, and unfortunately, buck-for-buck, the Intel processors in this segment edge ahead each time. These processors will not give you trouble with current games (although your graphics still might), and will be able to handle any application you throw at them. Be prepared to pay for this convenience, though.

I would suggest an Intel processor.

Intel platforms fall into a few categories, since Intel brands their mobile platforms as some flavour of "Centrino", which encompasses a compatible processor, chipset and wireless adapter. In increasing performance (and from oldest to newest):
1) Carmel platform: You're not likely to find anything in this range these days
2) Sonoma platform: You're not likely to find this either.
3) Napa platform: You might find this on some budget notebooks these days. Having owned a notebook from this era, I can say that the performance for office productivity is more than enough, and coupled with decent graphics, you'll be able to play decent games at decent frame rates.
4) Santa Rosa platform: You'll find a lot of these around. However, you might not find Centrino-branded Santa Rosa notebooks. This is because many manufacturers have opted for non-compatible wireless adapters. Even better than Napa.
5) Montevina platform: The current state-of-the-art. The Centrino-branded versions of these notebooks (actually, "Centrino 2" branded) are currently very expensive (twice your budget). However, you can find notebooks with Montevina chipsets using Santa Rosa processors that are EXTREMELY well priced.

With regards to graphics, you have 3 main choices:
1) Integrated graphics: Intel's integrated graphics are better than they've ever been. They now include some hardware-implemented acceleration, which improves performance dramatically. You will be able to play almost any game with them, but only at very low frame rates. Sadly, even with the performance increase over previous integrated solutions, even the most entry-level discrete graphics tends to out-perform these.
2) nVidia graphics: nVidia graphics are some of the best you can get. Currently, you can find notebooks with 9300M GPUs, which apparently perform exceedingly well. In reality, expect this GPU to perform about the same as a mid-range desktop GPU. Often more expensive.
3) ATi graphics: Many manufacturers are shipping notebooks with ATi graphics. The reasons is their performance-per-buck.

With regards to memory, you should look at what operating system you are getting with the notebook and what operating system you wish to run. It's pointless going for 4GB RAM if you aren't going to be using a 64bit operating system.

I recently bought a notebook with the following specs, and have been very happy with it:

Intel GM45 "Cantiga" chipset (This is a Montevina chipset)
Intel Core 2 Duo T5800 @ 2.0GHz (This is a Merom-based Santa Rosa processor)
2 x 1024MB DDR2-800 RAM
Intel Integrated 4500MHD graphics

At the end of the day, unfortunately, R6000-00 is currently not going to get you very much in the way of branded notebooks. You could look at the Sahara or Mecer notebooks if you don't mind the brand. Many forumites are big fans of Sahara because of their performance-per-buck.
 
Why do you need to game on your laptop? Im just curious.

Its never made much sense to me, for R6000 you could build a decent little gaming PC.

Dont get me wrong, I looove my lenovo thinkpad, but it doesnt have one game installed on it.

My laptop is worth double what my PC is, but my PC is about double as powerful.

It just doesnt make sense to invest in gaming laptops. Overpriced and limited upgradability
 
cool, thx everyone for your input,its really appreciated, 6000 is all i have for now n maybe ill upgrade in future, i will check those websites also

@tinman , u right , n i probably shouldve been more specific,the main game ill have on the laptop is Football Manager 09 , other than that i just want fast processing and to watch all my series n stuff,

thx again to everyone :)
 
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