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TheShogun said:
Erk, I have no trouble finding locks, unfortunately every single one I encounter is an absolute nubcake.
Locks are frikkin eezimode and yet they seem to have trouble picking the right Target, CC'ing and actually DPSing above the Tank.
It's been rather sad recently.
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You proberly find out that most locks were tanks, and they sucked so badly that everytime they got into a group, they were told how badly they sucked. So now they re-roll warlocks. So they still suck, just now they suck with style.
 
Or maybe make execute an abillity that will have a 5 minute cooldown and do let say 3K damage crit sort of like a pyroblast. Instead of the way it currently is. Also to be done in any stance.

edit: and not used rage ;)
 
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kHayne said:
I find a lot more bears than warriors on the rare occasion i pug. Even in guild, there are more bears than prot warriors. And even fewer prot paladins.

The problem is there's this huge demand for them, yet speccing for it is entirely too limiting. This is why bears are more popular than protection warriors these days - at least they can still switchto dps with a gearchange and a shapeshift - no respec required.
Whereas Prot tanks and Prot Palas need to respec if they want to be able to fulfill ANY other role, be it pve dps or efficient solo grinding or pvp. Even feral druids are better at pvp than either of these poor souls.

I half suspect that as a result, Deathknights will be the same as feral - able to switch between tanking and dps with a gear change and a shapeshift (in their case, just a runechange out of combat). That's just applying a bandaid to a bigger poblem - the fact remains, prot warrior and paladins need to be made more viable for other roles besides being a tank. Some kind of relatively long burst damage cooldowns (like 1 or 2 mins 'Shamanistic Range' sorta ability that massively burst their damage for 15 secs, for eg - this would help them for grinding and pvp without making them viable for pve sustained dps) would help with their soloing, and for pvp they should be able to, for eg, redirect spells to them ala a shammies Grounding totem.
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I got lvl 70 bear tank and on 3 mobs-4 mobs i can keep agro very good
even unmarked and on over pull i can use aoe agro and get about 8 mobs on me but then i need a VERY good healer but lvling my druid was 10 times easier than lvling my waroir talking about solo questing and i died ALOT less
that one good reason theres less waroirs but i see on wow sensus waroirs are about 40% more than druids on every server. But then again most ferals go resto at 70.(unlike me going moonkin and became unwanted unless proven otherwise)
Feral pvp is too blame for people going resto in arena.
And moonkins not doing better in arena believe me.
But then again i cant bring myslf to become healer on my druid i enjoy ballance and feral way too much even if i am the underdog :( .
Well same goes for prot they suck in pvp my feral owns them hands down with full health at end lol
So theyll have to respec once a week for pvp 100g a wek between pvp and pve.Ouch
 
but i see on wow sensus waroirs are about 40% more than druids on every server
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Most of them are arms-specced pvp robots. There's a ton of warriors in the game, at last count overall it was the second most popular class to rogues. It's just that very few of them are tanks.

Feral pvp is too blame for people going resto in arena.
And moonkins not doing better in arena believe me.
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I hate to tell you I told you so... but hell, I told you so. ;) I had a feral druid for over a year, and am one of those peeps that enjoy regular casual pvp, and nothing annoyed me more than trying to pvp with that druid. Told myself i'd never roll a spec unviable for pvp again, which is why I went shammy. Little did I know that the PVP gods of pre-TBC wow had, somewhere along the line, been nerfed to death. Sigh.
Next 70 will simply be a cheescake dps+cc king, ala lock or something.
 
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Kalvaer said:
You proberly find out that most locks were tanks, and they sucked so badly that everytime they got into a group, they were told how badly they sucked. So now they re-roll warlocks. So they still suck, just now they suck with style.
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...or the tanks just wanted a easier farm toon. Farming with my druid or my priest is good but they lack serious AOE damage. Farming BT for sunfury signets and arcane tomes with my lock is a million times easier and faster.
 
kHayne said:
Most of them are arms-specced pvp robots. There's a ton of warriors in the game, at last count overall it was the second most popular class to rogues. It's just that very few of them are tanks.



I hate to tell you I told you so... but hell, I told you so. ;) I had a feral druid for over a year, and am one of those peeps that enjoy regular casual pvp, and nothing annoyed me more than trying to pvp with that druid. Told myself i'd never roll a spec unviable for pvp again, which is why I went shammy. Little did I know that the PVP gods of pre-TBC wow had, somewhere along the line, been nerfed to death. Sigh.
Next 70 will simply be a cheescake dps+cc king, ala lock or something.
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Well call me stupid but i have found a way to make my moonkin shine in arena i start by stealth let the other team focus in the others then i spam starfire and healing from the back.Ill Never go resto and i mean NEVER go resto tried it for like 30min then i respeced again.Ballance and feral is for me.If there is one clas having a harder time tham me in arena is my shamie friend he does not even get one spell off then dead so you kinda made a mistake roling shamie to pvp.
If you own with shamie or druid in arena (not resto) you got skill not OP class.Druid=alot of fun maybe not so much in arena but world pvp raids on towns and the like were KINGS.

I am lvling a waroir the one class i still pawn with my druid without a sweet wonder why i do that should have rolled a warlock since they pawn me.

Orc waroirs just look good.
 
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o you kinda made a mistake roling shamie
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Resto shamans do ok all round and if I ever do go elemental I'll be wanted for 5v5. At least I'm not a lolkin or feral, they do jack sh.t in every bracket.
 
Petruz said:
Well call me stupid but i have found a way to make my moonkin shine in arena i start by stealth let the other team focus in the others then i spam starfire and healing from the back.Ill Never go resto and i mean NEVER go resto tried it for like 30min then i respeced again.Ballance and feral is for me.If there is one clas having a harder time tham me in arena is my shamie friend he does not even get one spell off then dead so you kinda made a mistake roling shamie to pvp.
If you own with shamie or druid in arena (not resto) you got skill not OP class.Druid=alot of fun maybe not so much in arena but world pvp raids on towns and the like were KINGS.

I am lvling a waroir the one class i still pawn with my druid without a sweet wonder why i do that should have rolled a warlock since they pawn me.

Orc waroirs just look good.
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I had an Oomkin try that on me in Arena. I splattered his entrails against the nearest wall.
It's a good Strat, but unfortunately for him, I wasn't focussing on his Arms partner.
 
I love Enchance Shammies :o

They bring so much to a raid, nice buffs, huge burst damage (Tanks hate them) But us rogues LOVE THEM !
 
Yeah, rogues especially love enhance shamans because
(a)they make em look imba in pve
(b)they're free hk's in pvp
 
kHayne said:
Resto shamans do ok all round and if I ever do go elemental I'll be wanted for 5v5. At least I'm not a lolkin or feral, they do jack sh.t in every bracket.
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Lol Hahaha
Elemental shamies dont even get a shot in arena everyone kills them first but good luck.
At least feral can stealth and i can own in arena as feral go toe too toe with waroir or put heat on the healer as cat
and if i get focus on by all ican go bear.But even ballance is better as feral in arena.
I still feel under powered but i wont play shamie in arena if i get payed to it like everyone kills them first always.
 
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kHayne said:
orly?
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/t...09371C54EB9062D76007?topicId=5103944138&sid=1
The top 5v5 teams in the world always run with an elemental shaman.

But yah, I can understand not wanting to play a shaman in arena. It actually takes some skill to pull it off.
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I am in a 5v5 team rating was 1700 now it dropped since 2.4 to 1600
but in most battles its me and vengefull geared waroir that left to finish the battle vs other 2 and alot of the times its me vs the last guy from them 1v1
feral can pawn if played rigth.Some ferals forget they can heal innervate barkskin cyclone thorns.

In 5v5 you can almost play any class.
And as druid any spec.
 
O and as for ferals are useless you have not seen me and my rogue friend in 2v2 we own.
 
But my 3v3 team suck bad pala me and shamie.
The shamie lives for 3 sec every battle.
 
Petruz said:
But my 3v3 team suck bad pala me and shamie.
The shamie lives for 3 sec every battle.
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For a nice 3vs3 I would go for a Lock, Rogue and a MS Warrior. Just my 2c

Lock and Rogue has CC MS does huge damage and reduces healing effects. So that should work nicely
 
Pitbull said:
For a nice 3vs3 I would go for a Lock, Rogue and a MS Warrior. Just my 2c

Lock and Rogue has CC MS does huge damage and reduces healing effects. So that should work nicely
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Have a ms waroir in my 5v5 team we have no healer but we own all go for sam target as waroir that our only tactic .

We did not set out to own even our team name states were just there for points uneducated farmers is team name.
 
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Well iv specced my warrior Hybrid but i went fury/ prot and it does help if u need to t ank a instance but u also have the dps for questing .. Tanking isnt hard just frustrating when ppl in ur group dont folow ur lead .. thats prob y ppl dnt like tanking.. Speccin Prot HELPS big time but then u need to master it to be a good tank.. so many factors evolve when u are a full prot warrior. Gear, UR prot spec, How u gain aggro + rage .. etc ... I got to admit it is great fun tho :D
 
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