Licence Woes

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DrewChan

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Hi Guys

Back onto my Speeding fines, rung up by the guy I sold my corsa to last year. Long story short - never handed in yellow form (vehicle was financed through MFC - he payed me and all documentation was sent straight from MFC to him)- Including a letter stating he had the authority to change the vehicle without me present.

He has never done this - I am sitting with fines. Have signed documentation (hand written) stating he purchased the vehicle has Vin number etc etc.

What now? I can go and fill in another form but theres a section that buyer needs to fill in - really dont want to deal with this guy again If I can help it.

He claims he handed in forms for Change of ownership last week - fines still reflect under my name currently- Is there someone I can call besides him to verify submission of forms (CPT)

Advice Please
 
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Surely MFC actually own the car - they hold the papers until he pays them off.

They should be able to assist.
 
how can he submit a change of ownership with outstanding fines? i thought that wasnt possible?

Frankly I would tell him to sort out everything or I will scrap the car, I would give him 21 days.
 
MFC was paid off last August - he paid it off and recieved the papers from them - including a signed permission form from me to change car into his name (contacted vehicle registration this is allowed)

MFC is still the title holder though - car is under my name, threatened to step in if car isnt sorted by thursday, Theoretically if he back dates change of ownership all fines will go into his name. (Not sure if back-dating is possible)

If push comes to shove threaten to scrap car - I want my new vehicle and this toss is blocking me getting it. Also 3k plus of fines looks really bad on my name.
 
Tell him to sort it out or you'll have the car scrapped.

AFAIK - there is a form you can find in stating you are no longer the owner?
 
As has been suggested,

Tell him to sort out the fines and DO the change of ownership inside 21 days or you will get the vehicle scrapped.
 
Screw giving him 21 days, Get an affidavit from the police saying you sold the car to him last year (be specific with all details). Tell him he has a day to pay the fines, if not that car will be scrapped and you will take him to court to get the money of the fines back.

If he does not pay, go to the department of licensing and explain to them the problem. They will ask for the money for outstanding fines and license disk fees. Pay it and keep a slip with the photo copy of the affidavit and take him to small claims court to get the money back.

I have no patience for people that do this. Be sure to state in the Affidavit that you were not responsible for anything that happened involving that car since the date you sold it to him. If he is so darn lazy as not to register the car, then you should not need to be the one to suffer from his personal problems, Also get his signiture on the yellow form and set the wheels in motion to have this car scrapped.

First and last time I did this, it took me about 3 hours and the car was off my name. But I actually went to the persons place of work and told their boss about what had happened and he kindly told them to leave work and sort this issue out, they came up with R680 for outstanding fines pretty quickly.
 
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FFFFUUUUUUU..... never dated the documents. Will have to go see if I can find the originals
 
katangeleus said:
Get an affidavit from the police saying you sold the car to him last year (be specific with all details)..
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+1.

I wouldn't even contact the buyer. Get the affidavit and start attaching it to return mail pieces to the traffic department. If you have time to waste, take the affidavit to the area traffic court prosecutor along with all the fines. Likely the fines will be squashed rather than reissued in the correct details.
 
Make out an affidavit and have it certified at the SAPS. Then go and see the Public Prosecutor. I had to do just this when Council "forgot" to take the car off the register even though I had a stamped yellow form.
 
He is talking kak to you as to handing in the yellow form a week ago and is trying to buy time as they do it there on the spot for you. So that why is you should get the car scrapped or taken off your name and take no nonsense, he either complies with paying all the fee'stoday or else next time they pull him over in a road block he can explain the story to the metro cops.
 
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Phoned a friend of a friend who deals with Licences -

He says the correct procedure from here is to get the NATIS documents and make myself title holder
(As far as I know MFC is still the title holder)

Once this is done declare that car has been out of my possession since dd/mm/yyyy
Fines will be transferred.

Seems like a longish process (means I need to get copy of NATIS from MFC and change Title etc etc)

If its the only way then so be it - some clarity surrounding the legalities would be appreciated from anyone in the know.

Its all well to say scrap the car but can this guy even change it into his name? Getting conflicting view on whether he can or not.
 
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