Linux developers – move to Windows 10

No thank you Microsoft.
I like my computer to be fast and to boot in a reasonable time. I also appreciate the ability to have full control, and not have you spying on me.

Your loss then...

MS are merely asking you to try it since they've implemented Bash (and various other Linux subsystems) in Windows now... so you can be productive on both platforms from a single place.
 
yeah, incorporate features stolen/borrowed from other places
Get people to adopt "new" features
Change "new" features so they only work with Microsoft tech
Once people are hooked, start charging for "new" features
Rinse
Repeat
 
Your loss then...

MS are merely asking you to try it since they've implemented Bash (and various other Linux subsystems) in Windows now... so you can be productive on both platforms from a single place.

So how many MS developers will switch to Linux with Mono and Visual Studio (via Wine) running? I'm guessing not many.

The thing is many (most?) Linux users either have, or develop, a fairly anti-MS stance and it will take a hell of a lot more than some common dev tools to persuade them.
 
yeah, incorporate features stolen/borrowed from other places
Get people to adopt "new" features
Change "new" features so they only work with Microsoft tech
Once people are hooked, start charging for "new" features
Rinse
Repeat

Ummm, which MS have you been dealing with for the last 5 years?
 
So how many MS developers will switch to Linux with Mono and Visual Studio (via Wine) running? I'm guessing not many.

The thing is many (most?) Linux users either have, or develop, a fairly anti-MS stance and it will take a hell of a lot more than some common dev tools to persuade them.

Quite a few have an anti-MS stance, without a doubt... and I honestly don't think this move is designed to sway those people. Its designed to give those who straddle the line more options.
 
yeah, incorporate features stolen/borrowed from other places
Get people to adopt "new" features
Change "new" features so they only work with Microsoft tech
Once people are hooked, start charging for "new" features
Rinse
Repeat
^This

Many years ago I used to develop on SCO Unix until they adopted the M$ "charge per seat" model - where are SCO now :whistle:
 
So how many MS developers will switch to Linux with Mono and Visual Studio (via Wine) running? I'm guessing not many.

The thing is many (most?) Linux users either have, or develop, a fairly anti-MS stance and it will take a hell of a lot more than some common dev tools to persuade them.

Well they did bring VS to Mac so that's one good thing.
 
Your loss then...

MS are merely asking you to try it since they've implemented Bash (and various other Linux subsystems) in Windows now... so you can be productive on both platforms from a single place.

I have installed the Windows Bash System, but have not used it a lot. I'm atm looking into VFIO to jail my Windows in a VM and pass my GPU through for gaming.

Because Windows 10 is very chatty to the mothership. It also restart my machine with upgrades and wake it up when it feels it needs to upgrade. I lost a couple of hours in powercfg already trying to fix this issues.

If I get VFIO running at a reasonable performance I'm abandoning ship. With Windows 10 you became the product, I don't want to go fiddle in some reg entry or obscure control panel menu to fix language issues and disable ads for trail period of Office 365 and Candy Crush.
 
Your loss then...

MS are merely asking you to try it since they've implemented Bash (and various other Linux subsystems) in Windows now... so you can be productive on both platforms from a single place.

Don't need, don't want Micro$oft.

That pretty much is Windows 10. It leaves OSX and Ubuntu in the dust on my MBP

Time for me to make a video of my work laptop booting and how long that takes. Yes, I go off to do other things and come back later.
Obviously those who get the fast boot time must have done some kind of tweaking or fiddling.
My current Mac boots to the login at around 4 seconds.

This is actually a pointless argument. It is not worth anyone's time to convince anyone else.

Windows, after Windows 7, became really crap- A slow, resource hog, and forever full of rubbish that nobody needs or wants. Windows 10 is M$ trying to turn computing into a tablet. Windows is also tied into this Active Directory crap and network domains. How many of you can raise your hand here, you came to work and was locked out of your friggen account, and unable to work until the IT support dept pulled the finger out the arse to sort it out?

I use Linux heavily for development, and pretty much any task that requires me to fiddle with hardware or doing things out of the ordinary.
 
So how many MS developers will switch to Linux with Mono and Visual Studio (via Wine) running? I'm guessing not many.

The thing is many (most?) Linux users either have, or develop, a fairly anti-MS stance and it will take a hell of a lot more than some common dev tools to persuade them.

*cough* .net core *cough*
 
Don't need, don't want Micro$oft.



Time for me to make a video of my work laptop booting and how long that takes. Yes, I go off to do other things and come back later.
Obviously those who get the fast boot time must have done some kind of tweaking or fiddling.
My current Mac boots to the login at around 4 seconds.

This is actually a pointless argument. It is not worth anyone's time to convince anyone else.

Windows, after Windows 7, became really crap- A slow, resource hog, and forever full of rubbish that nobody needs or wants. Windows 10 is M$ trying to turn computing into a tablet. Windows is also tied into this Active Directory crap and network domains. How many of you can raise your hand here, you came to work and was locked out of your friggen account, and unable to work until the IT support dept pulled the finger out the arse to sort it out?

I use Linux heavily for development, and pretty much any task that requires me to fiddle with hardware or doing things out of the ordinary.

The bolded bit is enough for me to not read any more of your post.. your opinion is 10 years old and totally not with the times anymore.
 
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