Linux / Unix :

i must admit, i also enjoy the command line and the very first time i used ubuntu, i configured most things in command line, now i am getting used to the GUI way of things. I do still use the command line for some stuff in ubuntu and most of the time with FreeBSD :)
 
pyxi said:
i must admit, i also enjoy the command line and the very first time i used ubuntu, i configured most things in command line, now i am getting used to the GUI way of things. I do still use the command line for some stuff in ubuntu and most of the time with FreeBSD :)
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I want to try something more Unix-like. There's a new one, PC-BSD 1.4 Released now, but the toasters still have only FreeBSD6.2. Are they the same??
 
pcbsd, is cool, i was running on my spare machine. It uses KDE as the desktop. You can download some packages that you can install with an installer but it it still needs work. I would stick with ubuntu, its better for learning and the 7.10 is really come along way.
 
Kasyx said:
Another awesome GUI graphics-**** is Beryl, puts Vista to shame. So if you are looking for pretty, check out Beryl and compiz fusion.

Win.
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I think beryl has stopped and everyone is working on compiz-fusion atm. Since I agree that kubuntu is better looking than ubuntu, I am going agree with popular opinion here. Go kubuntu... though I did once meet a chap in Cape Town who actually preffered Gnome to KDE... you actually do get them.

One of the best things about kubuntu/ubuntu is the massive support base out there. Wanna know how to do something?

http://ubuntuforums.org

No question is too n00b and they have an "absolute beginner" section thats invaluable to those new to kubuntu.

A quick search through the forums for step by step instructions on how to get compiz-fusion running can be found here for feisty fawn:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=536149&highlight=kubuntu+feisty+fawn+compiz-fusion

Their wiki and how-to`s are extremely useful.

A really cool kde terminal emulator is yakuake, and its very pretty as well. (you can install it with one of the packet managers like adept or synaptic or apt-get in command line.

Good luck with it.. oh, check our amarok as an mp3 player... Its a good enough reason to move to linux just by itself.
 
erm, as much as people will flame me, i like gnome over kde. Although i do prefer fluxbox or blackbox over gnome and kde.
 
Ubuntu is nice if you're new to Linux, so is Suse, Mandriva, Fedora and even Impi Linux. Most of these have a Line CD, so you don't need to format the HDD and loose and data.

on the UNIX side, get FreeBSD, its also very easy to install & use, but much more powerful & secure than Linux (out of the box). The next step would be OpenBSD, but this one is a bit harder to crack :)
 
Keep away from Fedora. It will make you hate Linux almost as much as Vista makes you hate Microsoft.
 
SoftDux said:
on the UNIX side, get FreeBSD, its also very easy to install & use, but much more powerful & secure than Linux (out of the box). The next step would be OpenBSD, but this one is a bit harder to crack :)
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I tried FreeBSD 6.2 today. It is quite a mission to install and is really only recommended to those very dedicated and knowledgeable at quite a low level about PC configuration.

Maybe PCBSD would be more suitable but it isn't (yet) on the toasters.
 
ya, i wouldnt recommend FreeBSD for somebody that is new to the linux/unix world, rather go with ubuntu, its a really point and click and easy to install, kind of OS.
 
Downloading Ubuntu now.

Is Beryl an 'app' that runs on Linux to make your UI pretty or is it a version of Linux?

What is a tarball?
 
FoxFive50 said:
Downloading Ubuntu now.

Is Beryl an 'app' that runs on Linux to make your UI pretty or is it a version of Linux?

What is a tarball?
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Beryl has being replaced by compiz-fusion, see my last post for info on how to set that up.

A tarball or tar (tape archiving resource) is a compression and backup utility similar to a zip file or rar file on steroids.
 
More often than not, you will be able to untar a tarball in the GUI (in a similar manner to Winzip or winRAR). The cool thing with Ubuntu is its apt-get system, whereby you are able to download, compile and install various programs.

Thus if you wanted to install compiz-fusion, there is more than likely a package distribution of it for apt-get, so you would just type

apt-get install compiz-fusion

And, in theory, Ubuntu would sort it all out for you. I know this is all quite confusing, but the Ubuntu forums (as mentioned in various previous posts) are quite possibly one of the best support forums for a Linux distribution around. Use them.
 
FoxFive50 said:
Downloading Ubuntu now.

Is Beryl an 'app' that runs on Linux to make your UI pretty or is it a version of Linux?

What is a tarball?
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1) Why are you wasting your cap on d/loading it, when someone could happily supply you with a copy?
:D

2) It's an app, shortly. Recently they merged with the configuration part of Compiz, to create Compiz Fusion. I installed this over the weekend and was very impressed. I do think it still suffers a little of the old "tweak and fidget" approach, but there are some wonderful and incredibly easy-to-follow guides. It's reward enough to make you follow the help.

3) It's an archive of files. Think along the lines of a zip-file, which was created with no compression. This is why tar files are compressed, often with a zip utility, creating ".tar.Z" files. Historically, 'tar' comes from the term [T]ape-[AR]chive.
 
Quick derail: On ubuntu, where are those downloaded files stored, so that I can copy them to somewhere safe so that I don't have to redownload them?

FoxFive50: The major universities have all the linuxes on their intranets. Try to get them from there. Else google "linux toasters".
 
flarkit said:
1) Why are you wasting your cap on d/loading it, when someone could happily supply you with a copy?
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Luckily I don't have a limit of size of downloads. Just speed. It took about 2 hours to download.

Thanks for the other answers!
 
compiz-fusion should be default on the new ubuntu, which in 3 days should be out.
 
The Ubuntu forums tell me not to install Beryl/Compiz unless I know what I'm doing so I'm going to wait a bit.

I installed Ubuntu yesterday. I made the error when creating the iso disc so had to use the forums to solve that. Once installed it is great.

Now I'm working on getting my screen to look 'crisp' it is a bit blurry/fuzzy (like when Adobe uses that clear type functionality and makes all the text look 'soft'). I imagine it is a driver issue. Will work on it later.
 
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