Load Shedding - the all in one thread

Trafeye said:
I can now understand why Mbeki want's to stay on longer. No president would want to leave his post with a country in such a terrible mess, not having enough of an opportunity to make it better. What a disaster of a legacy to leave behind.
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He was the one that got us in this position!
Good riddance - he should have been dumped years ago - that HIV/AIDS fiasco should have been the red card.
 
while i feel the amount is certainly huge, I reckon your R5billion per day is very much over inflated.
 
air said:
while i feel the amount is certainly huge, I reckon your R5billion per day is very much over inflated.
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The Star today quoted an economist at saying R2 billion.
Until another figure is trotted out - that is the one I am going to use.
 
Moederloos said:
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He was the one that got us in this position!
Good riddance - he should have been dumped years ago - that HIV/AIDS fiasco should have been the red card.
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Understand that I'm not coming up for Mbeki. He's had two terms in power to correct whatever poor decisions were taken before him. I'm just pointing to what must be a major motivation for him wanting to stay on longer. And ... what comes next ... Zuma rule ... may be the end of the world as we knew it.
 
Commuters burn trains

Commuters burn trains. Ahh we are getting pi$$ed off with the load shedding! Pity only when it affects you directly!

http://www.24.com/news/?p=tsa&i=817395

We should all act like Africans and do a Kenya on this government!

AND BTW Where is the honorary Mr Erwin. Just to prove the ANC cares Fcuckall! For them this is the good life in African style!

http://www.24.com/news/?p=tsa&i=817393
 
NoADSLyet said:
Commuters burn trains. Ahh we are getting pi$$ed off with the load shedding! Pity only when it affects you directly!

http://www.24.com/news/?p=tsa&i=817395

We should all act like Africans and do a Kenya on this government!

AND BTW Where is the honorary Mr Erwin. Just to prove the ANC cares Fcuckall! For them this is the good life in African style!

http://www.24.com/news/?p=tsa&i=817393
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Mr Erwin is vehemently NOT IN THE BAHAMAS!
According to a quote in the Star.
 
By all means, please do not take me word for it, R 5 billion is just a figure I heard from some guys working on the inside, obviously not a public number yet.

But even if it is just R 2 Billion, it still adds up to an enourmous amount. Have you ever seen R 2 Billion, let alone R 5 Billion?

Skills loss will be a factor at this rate yes, but there is no way of yet understanding the magnitude of such losses.
 
Generator shortage

Hi all,
We are experiencing a shortage of generators as well.
Staying in a rural area, things are worse than in the cities.We get shedded more often than you guys.
On thursday we had 5 outages lasting from 2 to 3 hours at a time.
There is a solution:
Get a 12 volt deep cycle Delco battery and an inverter(3000)watts.
The inverter changes 12 volt into 220 volt.
Make an extention (electricity cable)with a 3 point plug attached to both ends.
Switch the main power to the house off at the DB board.
Also switch off the geyser.
Plug one three point plug of the extention into the inverter.
Plug the other three point plug into any convenient plug box.
Switch on the plugbox and the inverter.
Now you have 220 volt power to all your plugs in the house as well as power for your lights.
All appliances,like tv,fridges,computors etc will work.
Toasters, electric kettles and your geysers won't work.
An electric kettle uses 3000 watts,same with a geyser.
When the power comes back on 4 or 5 hours later all you do is disconnect the inverter,put the battery on charge,switch the mains back on and switch the geyser on as well.
Reason you have to switch the mains off before you start the inverter is:if you don't switch it off you will supply the national grid and your stuff wont work.
The second reason you have to turn the mains off,is when the power comes back on you will blow up your converter and your deep cell battery.
A Delco deep cell battery costs about R 1200.
A3000 watt inverter shouldn't cost more than R 1500
A 12 volt 6 amp batterycharger would cost about R 200
If you really want to go way out you can get yourself a solar cell 55 watt to charge the battery.
 
Piepalook said:
Hi all,
We are experiencing a shortage of generators as well.
Staying in a rural area, things are worse than in the cities.We get shedded more often than you guys.
On thursday we had 5 outages lasting from 2 to 3 hours at a time.
There is a solution:
Get a 12 volt deep cycle Delco battery and an inverter(3000)watts.
The inverter changes 12 volt into 220 volt.
Make an extention (electricity cable)with a 3 point plug attached to both ends.
Switch the main power to the house off at the DB board.
Also switch off the geyser.
Plug one three point plug of the extention into the inverter.
Plug the other three point plug into any convenient plug box.
Switch on the plugbox and the inverter.
Now you have 220 volt power to all your plugs in the house as well as power for your lights.
All appliances,like tv,fridges,computors etc will work.
Toasters, electric kettles and your geysers won't work.
An electric kettle uses 3000 watts,same with a geyser.
When the power comes back on 4 or 5 hours later all you do is disconnect the inverter,put the battery on charge,switch the mains back on and switch the geyser on as well.
Reason you have to switch the mains off before you start the inverter is:if you don't switch it off you will supply the national grid and your stuff wont work.
The second reason you have to turn the mains off,is when the power comes back on you will blow up your converter and your deep cell battery.
A Delco deep cell battery costs about R 1200.
A3000 watt inverter shouldn't cost more than R 1500
A 12 volt 6 amp batterycharger would cost about R 200
If you really want to go way out you can get yourself a solar cell 55 watt to charge the battery.
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I also forgot to mention that it is quiet(N0 noise) and costs almost nothing to run.A generator (petrol) costs about R9.00 per kilowatt hour,compared to the R0.50 we pay Escom per kilowatt hour.
 
Hi all,
As an Afrikaans speaking Afrikaner,I do not like the new government.I never contemplated leaving this country. 7 generations of my family was born here.
As stated i do not like the government, but decided to give them a chance.
I am sick an tired of having electricity on a temporary basis.
I am sick an tired of not being able to drink tap water.
I am sick and tired of being taxed to death.
I am sick and tired of receiving second class services.
I am sick and tired of swerving to aviod potholes on tar surfaces.
I am sick and tired of the educational system that produces matriculants that cannot read or spell.
I always considered South Africans that left this country as selfish.

Today, i consider myself as stupid.I should have left long ago....

Because of the outages raw sewage is contaminating the water in the Vaal river system.Check out News 24.

Christmas 2005-no Petrol
Christmas 2006- no Coca-cola
Christmas 2007-no electricity
Christmas 2008-no food?......

Eventually it gets to much to bear.
 
Piepalook - well done for speaking out.
You will find some support here for your views - and many people will attack you and tell you to "take your negativity and go". Do not let them concern you.
 
R5 billion, 2 Billion doesn't matter. It's a serious economic loss for a businesses. Not to mention being F*king irritating for residents.
 
dogmeat said:
R5 billion, 2 Billion doesn't matter. It's a serious economic loss for a businesses. Not to mention being F*king irritating for residents.
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Just the other day we had some "feel good" article where Ireland gave us R50 million towards houses for the poor.

thats 3% of R2 billion. And the R2billion is daily.

Makes me think - not sure it has fired of a neuron in the ANC collective yet.
 
Will the charge from these batteries really last 5 hours?
 
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If you were to ask me.... that R5billion figure is probably VERY conservative in terms of the cost of loadshedding per day to the economy.
 
I'd like to hear what Sepp Blatter thinks about all of this. Perhaps we're trying to keep it a secret from him? :D
 
sandmanm34 said:
It's going to be a very scary winter, once Escom has the public used to 2 hour power cuts they will increase to 3 hours and in 5 years time we will be having 6 hour power cuts at a time... I still think Escom needs to employ some Americans to come and fix what they've broken. The yanks are a lot of things but slow is not one of them...
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..or better still..."rent" the guys who left SA and KNEW their jobs...
 
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