Local Loop Unbundling progress

The Internet Service Providers' Association of South Africa (ISPA) has welcomed the news that the Independent Communications Authority of South Africa (ICASA) has taken a number of positive steps towards drafting regulations for local loop unbundling.
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positive steps towards drafting regulations. :rolleyes:
 
The article does not actually mention any progress. Isn’t this supposed to be finished by 2011?
 
I thought this would have all been done by now? What were they doing for the last two years? If it takes that long to get to this point, then this might be a reality by 2015? If we are lucky?
 
Whats so hard about drafting the regulation? Geez why is it taking so long!
Heres a sentence or two put it on a piece of paper and sign it into power 4 crying out loud!

"All LL now belongs to the goverment, the goverment will maintain and upgrade it""ISP's can use the LL once permission is obtained from Vegeta via pm of cause"
"Trevor will allocate some dough to the LL every year"
"Citizens will not pay anything to use the LL as they already pay taxes, g0ddammit"
"If goverment screws up the LL the ruling party will lose 50% of it's seats in parliment and those seats will be replaced by the best Japenese Telecom's experts(must be japenese no other race permitted)(o okay if an asian guy looks close enough he might qualify)"

Done ICASA now copy and paste my text and your work is done dammit!
 
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This is good news, the big question is how long is it going to take to draft these Regulations. I hope with Seacom going online in the 2nd half of this year that we actually see some savings heading the consumers way. We have being paying way to much for way to long.

I just wish all this talk could become reality now....
 
Come on ICASA - Many countries have done this already so just copy them ffs. All we want is for other companies to get access from the Main Distribution frame to the Street Cabinet and thereafter the customer's dropwire. Companies can deploy their own DSLAMS and/or Softswitches in Telkom exchanges and run their own backhaul from there. With the glut of fibre being laid all over the place, backhual is readily available in most hot spots.

Read the article "Internet in Australia" on wikipedia for how this can be done.
 
Gaz{M} said:
Come on ICASA - Many countries have done this already so just copy them ffs. All we want is for other companies to get access from the Main Distribution frame to the Street Cabinet and thereafter the customer's dropwire. Companies can deploy their own DSLAMS and/or Softswitches in Telkom exchanges and run their own backhaul from there. With the glut of fibre being laid all over the place, backhual is readily available in most hot spots.

Read the article "Internet in Australia" on wikipedia for how this can be done.
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LOL yeah ICASA do a "sceintific" study on Wikipedia ffs! :D
 
At the rate the copper is being stolen there will be no fixed lines left when this does move ahead
 
ic said:
Telkodemonopolies has since partially invested in fibre optic cabling between exchanges and roadside distribution boxes - specifically for [Local Loop] ADSL bandwidth.
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There is very little of that (mostly limited to estates) , overwhelming majority of ADSL lines are pure copper from the exchange building to the customer.

The big bun-fight is going to be over space (co-location) at the exchange e.g allocation, reservation, partitioning, phy access, tampering etc. Thats assuming one can get past the financial viablity aspects of full co-located LLU.
 
'Said Stucke: "Local loop unbundling is critical to creating a competitive telecoms market in a country where one company, namely Telkom, still controls most of the fixed-line local loop. Telkom's continued control over most of this vital piece of infrastructure is an obstacle to true competition in the market."

I now truly believe in reincarnation as the sense of deja vu is overwhelming.
 
ic said:
that is exactly why Telkodemonopolies has been putting in fibre optic between exchanges and roadside DBs - it shortens that Copper length on the Local Loop
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There is zero business motivation for Telkom to perform these upgrades on existing lines, as it would not be funded by any additional revenues. Whether ADSL customers are on the end of a long copper line and or a FTTC based one, they would be paying the same.

Telkom will only deploy IMAXs (thats what they call their outdoor mini-exchanges), where newer developments fall outside the range of their current exchanges/infrastructure (e.g. > 5 Km to an outlying housing/business estate).

Its not terribly difficult to roughly determine whether this applies to your line. Estimate the distance to your SDC and to your exchange along the most observable/logical path. Then check out the line attenuation of your router and divide by 13.81 (avg attenuation added per 1000m of telco grade copper).

So in my case, the SDC is about 250m away as the cable runs (telephone poles). My attn is 58dB, therefore DSLAM is about 4200m away , and Google Earth says my exchange is 3800m away (as the crow flies). Pretty obvious I'm not on an IMAX.
 
Why is there such a big Hoo-Haa about LLU when everybody is saying Scr3w Telkom, and building their own networks... Honestly, What's the point!?
 
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