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Wow - this is a good game.

bought the compilation pack on saturday, patched it and started playing it sunday.

I'm level 12 at the moment so still struggeling to figure out everything.

I have a couple of questions.
How do i get a mount?
The LOTRO store will that only be implemented once the F2P version hits or can one buy stuff from the store already?
 
Wow - this is a good game.

bought the compilation pack on saturday, patched it and started playing it sunday.

I'm level 12 at the moment so still struggeling to figure out everything.

I have a couple of questions.
How do i get a mount?
The LOTRO store will that only be implemented once the F2P version hits or can one buy stuff from the store already?

I assume you're playing on the European version/servers. The USA version is already F2P, no idea when the EU one will catch up. Also technically you should not have "bought" this game, since it is suppose to be "free" [the client and all] . The reason is that the F2P version will remove the subscription cost , BUT it will lock the content [which you may already have accessed] . You will then need to pay -again- to unlock the content which you may or may not have already accessed while subscribed. That's how the F2P model works ,it's not truly free, you will say get Bree-Land "free" but when you want to go level in Lone Lands you need to pay for the "zone" [once off] . So it can get expensive if you bought the full client -and- paying a sub -and- suddenly the game goes F2P 'right under you' while you're in those zones that is not free. So the new F2P model is in fact more a kind of "Pay as you go" model.

As for the Store itself, chances are the store will have things in there that you, as subscriber already have -now- [but will need to buy when the game goes F2P] , hence why i doubt they'll make the European shop fully available.

But all is not lost, if Turbine do the same as with DDO [dungeons and dragons Online] they will KEEP the subscription option there , which unlocks most content and gives you "turbine points" [the currency used for DDO and LOTRO] every month to buy things in the shop.

That's why most of us ex-subscribers [i have a lvl 63 char on Snowbourn] are waiting for the EU version to officially go F2P to see what the damage is to access the high level chars again . Chances are i'll have to pay for various areas and/or classes to even continue on my high level. Sounds a little messy to me. So even for "first timers" i'd either play the USA version for now, or wait for the EU one to go F2P to see what it will REALLY cost.



Either way regarding the mount.

If you bought the gold edition you would have received a mount as an extra item [can't remember how you claim, try /claim or something in game] , which you can use at lvl 12ish, but normally you can only start riding a mount at about lvl15- 20 . You buy the mount north of Bree [there's a horse farm , you will see the horse drawings on the map of breeland] . At lvl 40 you get a faster mount after completing a quest-chain [also at the Bree Horse Farm] . To put it another way, you will find the Horse Vendors soon enough when you can actually use mounts.
 
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From the LOTRO F2P FAQ

I purchased the Mines of Moria™ Expansion and/or the Siege of Mirkwood™ Expansion. Can I still access this content? Will I still be able to play my Rune-keeper or Warden characters? What if I unsubscribe?
(Last updated: 04.06.10)
When LOTRO Free-to-Play becomes available you will still be able to access the content and features of any expansions you have previously purchased. Whether you are a VIP or a Premium player, the content and features of these expansions will be available to you in their entirety.

If you decide not to join the VIP program or decide to downgrade to Premium player status, the content and features of these expansions will still be available to you. You will still be able to play your Rune-keeper and Warden characters as long as they are in character slots you have selected or have unlocked by visiting the LOTRO Store.
 
Just to give you an idea of what is actually in the LOTRO store [USA version], the value next to it is "turbine points". The "Quest Packs" are basically zones, which is like paying for say "Hellfire" or "Barrens" in WoW .

So my concern is, i have no idea if i need to buy these things -again- since my chars have been to all those zones and i already paid for the expansions [and my chars are in fact "IN" the expansions at this stage] . For a new player this is not a concern (yet) .



http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?347917-LOTRO-Store-Full-Price-List
PREMIUM ITEMS

Expansions:
Mines of Moria 2495
Siege of Mirkwood 1995

Quest Packs:
Lone Lands 600
North Downs 900
Enedwaith 750
Trollshaws 750
Evendim 750
Eregion 750
MMs 750
Angmar 900
Forochel 750


Classes:
RK 636
Warden 636


Mounts:
Crumbling Whistle VSlow Steed (6h) 25
Tarnished Whistle VSlow Steed (1d) 75
Polished Whistle VSlow Steed (7d) 150
Bright Whistle VSlow Steed (30d) 350

etc etc
 
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From the LOTRO F2P FAQ

I purchased the Mines of Moria™ Expansion and/or the Siege of Mirkwood™ Expansion. Can I still access this content? Will I still be able to play my Rune-keeper or Warden characters? What if I unsubscribe?
(Last updated: 04.06.10)
When LOTRO Free-to-Play becomes available you will still be able to access the content and features of any expansions you have previously purchased. Whether you are a VIP or a Premium player, the content and features of these expansions will be available to you in their entirety.

If you decide not to join the VIP program or decide to downgrade to Premium player status, the content and features of these expansions will still be available to you. You will still be able to play your Rune-keeper and Warden characters as long as they are in character slots you have selected or have unlocked by visiting the LOTRO Store.

Ok, that's good news about the expansions , because it looks to be rather expensive to buy them again. So at least you didn't waste you money with buying the client now. As for the classes, not sure what that part in bold means "unlocked by visiting the LOTRO store" , that implies paying, but will see. My main is in fact a Warden.

On a note: I suggest you do exactly that asap, roll Runekeeper and roll Wardens NOW [even if you don't play them now] , so they are "unlocked" when they switch.

Anyway, that's why i'm waiting for the european release, on the USA version i will need to pay for everything.
 
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diabolus... AFAIK you will be able to enter into the expansions with your characters but will not be able to access any new missions. Those in your quest book will still be accessible. You will have to purchase the missions within the expansions again unless you go VIP. This is what I read on the LOTRO forums.
 
diabolus... AFAIK you will be able to enter into the expansions with your characters but will not be able to access any new missions. Those in your quest book will still be accessible. You will have to purchase the missions within the expansions again unless you go VIP. This is what I read on the LOTRO forums.

Well that sucks, so it implies if i take any new char up i will need to buy the expansions [and zones] at some stage. Even though my main is "past" most of the missions and won't need it, i did still pay for each expansion in full after all, i kind of expect Turbine to credit me for that.

Now i'm fine with paying for the "Quest Packs" aka "Zones" insided the expansions , but paying again for the actual Expansions which i did dish out $50 for [without getting game time mind you] is a little unfair imho.
 
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Well that sucks, so it implies if i take any new char up i will need to buy the expansions [and zones] at some stage. Even though my main is "past" most of the missions and won't need it, i did still pay for each expansion in full after all, i kind of expect Turbine to credit me for that.

Now i'm fine with paying for the "Quest Packs" aka "Zones" insided the expansions , but paying again for the actual Expansions which i did dish out $50 for [without getting game time mind you] is a little unfair imho.

No, I don't think you will pay for the expansion again, the problem seems to be that you have to purchase the quest packs again...
 
No, I don't think you will pay for the expansion again, the problem seems to be that you have to purchase the quest packs again...

Oh ok, that i can live with. The expansions will cost $50 if you buy them from the Turbine Store now , something i will refuse to pay -again- .

PS: It is about $20 for 1500 turbine points.
 
Nothing is free. I knew this whole f2p was sounding too good.
 
Nothing is free. I knew this whole f2p was sounding too good.

Indeed, DDO is also "free", but i've already spent $50 on it in the last few months. LOTRO will be the same. Now i prefer this model over subscription at the end of the day, because if i DO spend the money , you don't "lose" it when you stop paying. For a new LOTRO player i think it's ideal, you will see enough of the game "for free" and if you spend money the content is unlocked forever, whether you play once a week , once a month or once a year....you will have access to it. In a subscription model, you pay for the box, you pay per month for the content and then you stop paying and lose access to -everything- .

My only pet peeve is, i unfortunately already spend alot of money on LOTRO [box cost, subscription for 6+ months , expansion costs] and it seems i'm not getting alot of "return on investment" with the F2P switch, i literally need to pay for most content again. So this switch is definitely GREAT for new players, not so great for veterans. So i'm less inclined to spend money on LOTRO, knowing i've already done so in the past and not getting much of a reward for what i paid.

I mean, sure they unlock certain obvious things, but they're not giving you ANY reward for subscribing in the past or paying for the default box. If you subscribe in the F2P model you will receive points automatically per month etc...
 
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Hmm ive already bought the gold edition only, so no expansions or anything else. Is it worth putting anymore time into lotro? I mean I found the first 35 levels to be decent, though if that's how the expansions are I don't think I should bother since theres other mmo's on the horizon. Too many people buy this game and end up dropping it at level 10 sadly. What happens if I pay the "premium" when lotro comes out? Basically the monthly fee? Will there be that option?
 
You are F2P when you start, Premium when you buy your fist store items and then VIP if you subscribe monthly. With VIP you get everything in game while you pay but as soon as you stop you can only access the F2P content and you have no mount to use etc...
 
Here is comparision incase you guys missed it
http://www.lotro.com/free.php
Premium Member is for the guys who bought the game and expansions (check bottom for extra info if you own Mines of Moria expansion).
VIP is if you have a lifetime sub or select to pay monthly.
 
Hmm ive already bought the gold edition only, so no expansions or anything else. Is it worth putting anymore time into lotro? I mean I found the first 35 levels to be decent, though if that's how the expansions are I don't think I should bother since theres other mmo's on the horizon. Too many people buy this game and end up dropping it at level 10 sadly. What happens if I pay the "premium" when lotro comes out? Basically the monthly fee? Will there be that option?

If you're bored of the MAIN GAME , then the expansions are not going to make things better to put it bluntly. Moria is entirely inside a mountain [underground with corridors and caverns] for the entire lvl 50 -60 and i personally liked it LESS than the main game [which are outside and open]. Siege of Mirkwood, is outside again, but is just an extension of the whole story line into the new zones, nothing that is totally different from the base game.

Just like with WoW, only get the expansions when you run into the content they provide. Moria [1st expansion] only starts at lvl 50 , so there's absolutely no reason to buy it until you're about lvl 48 and still looking for more. There are 2 classes with Moria [Warden and Runekeeper] which is about the only reason i'd buy Moria before i am lvl 50 on a character.

The 2nd expansion you pretty much need the 1st expansion FIRST and with the whole F2P switch, i wouldn't get it unless i'm again about lvl 58 . There's no new classes , they only added the Skirmish System [kind of like a set of scale-for-your-level "dungeons"/"instances" you can run solo or with friends and get extra xp] which is accessible at lvl 30 . But again the F2P model throws this thing a little out of whack and you will most likely pay for the Skirmish part again.


. Too many people buy this game and end up dropping it at level 10 sadly. What happens if I pay the "premium" when lotro comes out? Basically the monthly fee? Will there be that option?

Not sure what you mean, there will still be the "VIP" option where you subscribe per month and don't have to constantly buy each zone you try to enter, but if you drop back to "Free" [no subscription] you will need to first buy the content -anyway- [even if you accessed it while subbing] . The most optimal route if you know you want to play LOTRO "over the long term" is to simply buy everything on your free account, because then you have it forever. Subscription just unlock the content "while you subscribe" and then locks it again the moment you stop paying.
 
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