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M$ volume licences - 5 licence
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Thanks conradl for this info.
Im confused tho. From what i read ( and stand to be corrected) there are no upgrade versions to win 7.
however win 7 aside for now...
What would you advise would be the cheapest way to license an os on a computer (apart from buying laptops, which i am kinda leaning towards right now)
XP and upwards
Im confused tho. From what i read ( and stand to be corrected) there are no upgrade versions to win 7.
however win 7 aside for now...
What would you advise would be the cheapest way to license an os on a computer (apart from buying laptops, which i am kinda leaning towards right now)
XP and upwards
Thanks conradl for this info.
Im confused tho. From what i read ( and stand to be corrected) there are no upgrade versions to win 7.
however win 7 aside for now...
What would you advise would be the cheapest way to license an os on a computer (apart from buying laptops, which i am kinda leaning towards right now)
XP and upwards
I know some suppliers like Esquire sell OEM licences. That's probably the cheapest.
Upgrade from XP to Win7? The volume license options for Win7 are all upgrade only, since you need an OEM/DSP license. There are two ways to license the OS: DSP/OEM or Full retail. DSP lives and dies on the machine on which the OS is first installed and cannot be moved to another machine; full retail can be reinstalled on different machine (of course only one at a time). OEM is cheaper when compared to FR by a large margin, and probably your best option.
Laptops have the OS cost built in: you can get a Gigabut 1080 with no OS and it is around R900 cheaper then the same model with Windows....
Laptops have the OS cost built in: you can get a Gigabut 1080 with no OS and it is around R900 cheaper then the same model with Windows....
Ratwiz
Dealer
I'd recommend considering Full-Retail Packages for both your Microsoft OS and for Office 2010. The DSP/OEM versions are definitely cheaper, but:
1. They have don't have resale value. So, you'll never be able to sell the licenses at a later stage (not unless you're selling the machine with it).
2. As Conrad said, they live and die with the machine. If you get new PCs, the licenses can't be moved.
3. You can install Office 2010 on more than one PC, if you're using the Retail version (subject to certain conditions). More info here.
Still could be a toss-up though, it all depends on what your priorities are.
1. They have don't have resale value. So, you'll never be able to sell the licenses at a later stage (not unless you're selling the machine with it).
2. As Conrad said, they live and die with the machine. If you get new PCs, the licenses can't be moved.
3. You can install Office 2010 on more than one PC, if you're using the Retail version (subject to certain conditions). More info here.
Still could be a toss-up though, it all depends on what your priorities are.
I was trying to say, i would like to license any operating system xp or later
I was reading on NIVO that you will need a full license to upgrade to win 7. M$ dont provide any upgrade prices. Perhaps this is the retail strategy and not the volume licensing as you stated conradl. I'm beginning to believe there is no easy and cheap way outa this
I am looking at buying 5 PCs and they don't come with any software or OS. Since 5 was the minimum for Volume Licensing I thought i would save a few bucks going this route.
As ratwiz points out, this decision is more difficult than choosing a cellphone package. - Thanks ratwiz, will consider this too - guess DSP/OEM may be more expensive in the long run.
Office and win licenses add up to more than the hardware - wtf
If you are getting new PCs then your cheapest option is certainly to buy OEM/DSP licenses when you buy the machines. You cannot buy a volume license if you do not have any previous licenses to upgrade from. Volume licensing is often misunderstood - there is a 64 page document from Microsoft explaining it!
If you were running XP on your machines and wanted to upgrade them all to Windows 7, or if you have office 2003 and want to upgrade them to 2010 for eg, then a volume license could be the way to go. Also note that there are different types of volume license models offering different benefits, like transfering licenses to other computers, software assurance, upgrade rights, spread payments etc.
But for new computers, OEM is the cheapest option.
If you were running XP on your machines and wanted to upgrade them all to Windows 7, or if you have office 2003 and want to upgrade them to 2010 for eg, then a volume license could be the way to go. Also note that there are different types of volume license models offering different benefits, like transfering licenses to other computers, software assurance, upgrade rights, spread payments etc.
But for new computers, OEM is the cheapest option.
I was trying to say, i would like to license any operating system xp or later
I was reading on NIVO that you will need a full license to upgrade to win 7. M$ dont provide any upgrade prices. Perhaps this is the retail strategy and not the volume licensing as you stated conradl. I'm beginning to believe there is no easy and cheap way outa this
I am looking at buying 5 PCs and they don't come with any software or OS. Since 5 was the minimum for Volume Licensing I thought i would save a few bucks going this route.
As ratwiz points out, this decision is more difficult than choosing a cellphone package. - Thanks ratwiz, will consider this too - guess DSP/OEM may be more expensive in the long run.
Office and win licenses add up to more than the hardware - wtf
The good news is that there is an easy way out - just not a cheap one
If you planning on using the PC for a few years, then the OEM is cheaper; if however you plan on refreshing the desktop every year or so, (or three years), then OVL is better. OVL also has a base licenses which allows you to use Sharepoint, Exchange, OS, AV, system centre etc.
An exact solution is best discussed, but it sounds like DSP is the best option for you. OVL is around 1.5x the price of DSP, and retail around 2x the price of DSP. If you keep the PC for 4 years, then it would make more sense to buy a new DSP license when you upgrade the PC....
The good news is that there is an easy way out - just not a cheap one
you can say that again - M$ is crazy
Win95 was 500odd and the average price of a low end pc was 5000 (windows was 10%)
Win7U is 1700 and the average price of a low end pc 3500 (windows is 50%)
Are they indirectly promoting open source
"Win95 was 500odd and the average price of a low end pc was 5000 (windows was 10%)
Win7U is 1700 and the average price of a low end pc 3500 (windows is 50%)"
Yes, that is very crazy. But this is the worldmarket. Everybody can change this. Take only open source, Linux and Open Office for example.
If more people search for another way, the prices in future will go down again.
Buy only hardware which has Linux drivers and MS drivers.
The market needs competition and no MS software monopol.....
Win7U is 1700 and the average price of a low end pc 3500 (windows is 50%)"
Yes, that is very crazy. But this is the worldmarket. Everybody can change this. Take only open source, Linux and Open Office for example.
If more people search for another way, the prices in future will go down again.
Buy only hardware which has Linux drivers and MS drivers.
The market needs competition and no MS software monopol.....
Conradl, what is that license called where you pay like USD500 per pc, but you can load anything on it, any ver of windows and office, ect.
I had it 3 years ago at my prev company, but can't remember what you called it.
I had it 3 years ago at my prev company, but can't remember what you called it.
GIMME SOME O THAT (sorry was watching too much chris rock this morning)
seriously that sounds like a nice deal tho. $500 x 8 = 4000 but M$ seem to want to promote open source
, and the price of such a product would be something like 7/8k i would assume (crazy a#$#...) ok i'll stop with the chris rock nowYou get the OVL CAL Suite - core and enterprise. Core allows you to use Windows Server, Exchange, Sharepoint, and system centre (All standard). Ent adds Forefront and OFfice coms server; and all versions are Enterprise. You may have had an enterprise agreement that included Office, but I am not sure if you get an actual CAL that includes Office.
GIMME SOME O THAT (sorry was watching too much chris rock this morning)
seriously that sounds like a nice deal tho. $500 x 8 = 4000 but M$ seem to want to promote open source
Problem is that you need to enrol a minimum of 250 machines to get onto some of the programs - of which I am pretty sure the suite is one. If it makes you feel better, academic licenses cost less than R400 including Exchange, server, Office ent, Sharepoint etc