Just for my edification - how do you differentiate between a workstation and a desktop?
I don't think you can classify the Mac Pro any differently than the Dell - check the spec's on it http://www.apple.com/macpro/specs.html. Its a pro machine.
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I don't think you can classify the Mac Pro any differently than the Dell - check the spec's on it http://www.apple.com/macpro/specs.html. Its a pro machine.
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well, when i bought my first G5 2 years ago i was on a 6 month waiting list. etv bought something like 50 units...
I dont know - given the chance the market might grow substantially if they weren't so overpriced locally. IMO Core is the SAIX of the apple market - ie they're the sole importer.
Right-click??
It took me about a week to get used to a one-button mouse... mainly because I could do almost everything without having to resort to a right-click.
Most of the right click functions on a mac can be achieved simply by drag and drop. I found that my brain had become so used to having to do the things the long way round on a PC that I was literally "blind" to how easy it was to get things done on the mac.
My Centrino laptop was a real pain to use without a mouse... becuz of the right click, with the MBP one handed trackpad functions mean I'm never looking round for a mouse.
I'm nor even going to mention the ease of setting things like networks, printers and usb devices up.
It took me about a week to get used to a one-button mouse... mainly because I could do almost everything without having to resort to a right-click.
Most of the right click functions on a mac can be achieved simply by drag and drop. I found that my brain had become so used to having to do the things the long way round on a PC that I was literally "blind" to how easy it was to get things done on the mac.
My Centrino laptop was a real pain to use without a mouse... becuz of the right click, with the MBP one handed trackpad functions mean I'm never looking round for a mouse.
I'm nor even going to mention the ease of setting things like networks, printers and usb devices up.
Mouses - definitely - just about any usb mouse will work.
USB keyboards work too but you have to keep in mind the windows key isnt going to pop up the start menu on a mac
Yes. OsX uses samba for file sharing. .
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Most system level devices just need to be plugged in to work... you'll find that almost all MS and logitech keyboards and pointers come with a works on OS X logo. Some of them want to install software to control the special function buttons etc.
Comparing the apple wireless goodies to the MS stuff is a laugh. No need for external rx/tx dongles with the apple stuff (saves a USB port), no special software/drivers, just turn on, pair to the mac and off you go.
What sort of issues?
Yeah - it's easy. Setting the workgroup needs to be done from the Directory Access utility rather than networking but thats really the only odd bit. Otherwise its just a matter of turning on file sharing and the usual network settings.
lilDeath
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No doubt there are more to it than simply turning on file sharing and setting the workgroup?
What about adding the MAC to the domain as a computer account, which you will have to do for IT governance purposes, for instance?
No workgroup will do, unless this is a MAC specific term??
Will logon scripts work?
What about running policies and making sure AV is deployed and will run on a MAC (of course the vendor must have a MAC version).
In my experience things are never as simple as it seems.
I guess it all depends on what is being meant by "adding a MAC to a Win network".
What about adding the MAC to the domain as a computer account, which you will have to do for IT governance purposes, for instance?
No workgroup will do, unless this is a MAC specific term??
Will logon scripts work?
What about running policies and making sure AV is deployed and will run on a MAC (of course the vendor must have a MAC version).
In my experience things are never as simple as it seems.
I guess it all depends on what is being meant by "adding a MAC to a Win network".
Of course it depends on the network and what your login scripts do but since OsX came on the scene I've never had any problems integrating. Workgroups, active directories, domain accounts all work fine. Anything else you'll have to find out for yourselves.No doubt there are more to it than simply turning on file sharing and setting the workgroup?
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I guess it all depends on what is being meant by "adding a MAC to a Win network".
You're the first person I've ever heard complain about build quality and considering you can easily triple boot OsX, Windoze, and Linux I've got to wonder what your software is that it wont run on any of those operating systems.Claymore said:
killadoob
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bwana again dual booting
he said mac's dont run his software
does an apple mac on its own run his software?
no
he said mac's dont run his software
does an apple mac on its own run his software?
no
Carlhead
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Macs and networking quite frankly SUX in a business environment.
Many of my clients have deployed Linux servers to handle sharing between OSX, OS9 and Windoze.
The macs are so irratating, where the PC's can just browse to the Linux box on the network and see all the shares... With the damn Apples you have to use "Go" "connect to server" then if you don't use smb://servername/share then they can only see the private home directory and no other shares.
Many of my clients have deployed Linux servers to handle sharing between OSX, OS9 and Windoze.
The macs are so irratating, where the PC's can just browse to the Linux box on the network and see all the shares... With the damn Apples you have to use "Go" "connect to server" then if you don't use smb://servername/share then they can only see the private home directory and no other shares.
These days a mac can be considered a machine - just like a dell or a HP. It might come pre installed with OsX but that's a different matter. Since my clairvoyance hat is on the fritz today I cant tell from here what software he's referring to. Can you tell me for sure it doesnt work on OsX not knowing what it is? No.
But I can tell you it will probably run on a Mac - just not under what operating system.
@Carlhead - I have no problems browsing my linux box at all. Even if you do chose to go the Cmd-K route (connect to server) - which I rarely do - servers are stored in your recent servers list for future use. I just browse the shares normally though. I'm new with linux so I'm not sure what - if anything - I did to get it to work.
Carlhead
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Doesn't work, we've had to manually add each new share to each mac on the network... the MAC can't get a share listing from the Linux box... I'm not sure why because the PC's don't have a problem.
It could be a difference in the distro couldnt it? I've only used it with Ubuntu.