Mac - virus protection software - do we need it ?

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I've had my MBP for a few weeks now, and haven't installed any virus protection software, and haven't noticed any threats.

Do other Mac users use virus programs, and if so what's recommended?

On my wife's Vaio we use AVG free, and it does an excellent job.
 
You don't really need anything - just common sense. The only real threat is phishing mails. If you use a good web host, you shouldn't have to rely on software on your computer to protect against it.
 
If you think it your job to protect pc owners from themselves then go for it but there are no mac virues in the wild at this time that I know of.
 
Mac - Virus protection

This conversation on one of the Mac forums may help Mac users in SA, especially they plan to run Windows in parallel with their Macs. Randy Singer is an acknowledge authority on the Mac.
Randy B. Singer to Macintosh
show details 11/12/2009
On Dec 11, 2009, at 2:29 AM, tony riley wrote:

The use of virtual windoze on Macs is becoming more prevalent and I wonder about the virus implications.

If I install , say, VMware Fusion on my Intel iMac and then set up a virtual Windows system, what is the risk from Windows viruses likely to be?

It depends on what you are using Windows for on your Macintosh. By far the most common vectors for transmission of malware are e-mail and via the Web. Many (most?) Macintosh users only use virtualization to run one or two mission critical Windows applications. Usually they do their Web surfing using Macintosh programs, as in most cases Macintosh programs are perfectly sufficient for that purpose. If you fit this description, the risk is quite low, as the vector for viral transmission has been more or less cut off. In that case, you don't need to run Windows anti-virus software at all.
However, if you plan to access the Internet via Windows or exchange files with other Windows users, it would probably be best to have Windows anti-virus software installed.
Can Win viruses attack the virtual machine in just the same way as a standalone Win PC?
Windows viruses can usually run just as well on a virtualized installation of Windows as they do on a real Windows PC.

If viruses can (do) get in via the virtual Windows installation will they (could they) affect the Mac OS as well?
There has been a lot of discussion about this. As with most things having to do with a computer, it's possible to imagine that it could happen in some unusual set of circumstances, but it is a rather remote possibility. I've never heard of it happening, and a Web search won't turn up any instances of it happening. I wouldn't worry about it.
Is the Mac at risk from being on a wireless network with other Win PC's?
If you will be exchanging files with those other PC's and you using those files in an environment where you are running Windows, it is. And, of course, unless you are careful about security, there are the usual concerns about hacking and privacy.
Finally, what is the perceived wisdom of running antivirus software on Macs now?
The overwhelming majority of Macintosh users don't use any anti-virus software at all. While there is Macintosh malware in the wild, the threat is miniscule. (That is, after all, one of the big reasons that you switched to the Macintosh, isn't it?)
Some Mac users, like myself, run anti-virus software because we use our computers in our business, and it just doesn't look good to the public/clients/customers/etc. not to be running anti-virus software. But I can't even remember the last time that my anti-virus software detected something arguably of significance. It's been many years. Maybe as long as a decade ago, before the advent of OS X.
As a recent convert to the Mac platform, any info would be welcome.
I hope that the above helps. This is a subject that provokes a lot of debate, partially because many Mac users are previous (or maybe even are still current) Windows users and are used to how things are on Windows, and partially because there is a lot of paranoia about this based on fear. But if you ask a lot of Macintosh users if they have contracted any viruses since the advent of OS X, I'm sure that you will have a hard time finding anyone who has legitimately been infected with one. (Many users are quick to assume that *any* problem that they encounter with their Mac is due to a virus. That is just about always an erroneous assumption.)
 
Usually they do their Web surfing using Macintosh programs, as in most cases Macintosh programs are perfectly sufficient for that purpose. If you fit this description, the risk is quite low, as the vector for viral transmission has been more or less cut off. In that case, you don't need to run Windows anti-virus software at all.
I fall into this category and will continue without virus software.


In the case of Windows, I don't agree with the suggestion that intelligence and vigilance is sufficient to protect the PC - I once did a clean install with the network cable still connected and within seconds, before I could install the patch, it was hit with the Remote Procedure Call (RPC) to shut down continuously.

Thanks for all the comments and suggestions.
 
Do you need virus protection for any computer for that matter? No... the user is almost always the weakest link. If you keep your system updated, behind a firewall and don't open suspicious files or e-mails you'll be fine. That goes for Windows, MacOS and Linux.
 
have some simple insurance in place

I'm finding that current AV are almost universally impotent against flash disk transmission of malware. Since a lot of people share data between macs and pcs using this latter day floppy mail, it pays to have some sort of extra detection on your mac.
You can usually just delete most malware from a FAT usb stick, but NTFS can be a pain.

ClamXav is a simple gui for the preferred scanning engine for os x.
 
its not necessary to install an anti virus software as long your security updates are 100%. However for the sake of my company policy had to install www.iantivirus.com its freeeeeee
 
I'm finding that current AV are almost universally impotent against flash disk transmission of malware.
I always disable Autorun in Windows - it's a pain on most versions but easy on Windows 7 ultimate.
 
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If you like to highly control things, like google ip addresses etc,.. adserver etc,.. then Little Snitch is a good bet,..

But y,.. Snow leopard has better security features in the sys pref wher you can lock down apps,.. but i like my net barrier, logs traffic etc etc,. you can monitor your connection suitable thus,..
 
o yeah,.. and regards windoez bugzz,.. they literally cannot run on the mac os,.. so even if you tank your vm with bugz galore,. they cant go anywhere,.. and if you have a back up etc,.. well then wipe/copy/restore/boot up and you're away again,..
 
Even when not using Windows I would still use an anti-virus app. It just not look good when you have virii originating from yourself even if they don't affect you ;)
 
I've never installed an anti-virus or had any problems with virus etc ever since I first got my Mac back in 2007.

Must agree - same here. Been using a Mac for over 2 years now with no anti-virus and had no problems. I bet it's quite safe to use a Mac without anti-virus :)
 
Even when not using Windows I would still use an anti-virus app. It just not look good when you have virii originating from yourself even if they don't affect you ;)

Firstly, the virus would not be able to run on your Mac and thus can't spread itself. The only way you would spread it is if you physically copied the virus files to someone else's machine or mailed them to someone. Hoping no one is that incompetent?
 
Firstly, the virus would not be able to run on your Mac and thus can't spread itself.

The only way you would spread it is if you physically copied the virus files to someone else's machine or mailed them to someone. Hoping no one is that incompetent?

I know that.

You can still pass on infected files via copying or forwarding mails other people sent you. Incompetence is rife and then you have people with paid for antivirus products that's full of holes.
 
You can still pass on infected files via copying or forwarding mails other people sent you. Incompetence is rife and then you have people with paid for antivirus products that's full of holes.

Frankly, I don't care about the idiotic masses and their scum infested windows machines. If someone is stupid enough to forward a completely out-of-character mail, and their friend is stupid enough to open it, and on top of that, the mail made it through two layers of mail server where it should have gotten caught, then *someone* deserves to suffer for it. I can't be expected to bog down my Mac with antivirus bloatware just to protect them against their stupidity.

If someone in this day and age is still willing to put up with a mail provider that allows infected files through, they have no one to blame but themselves. If you're still getting virusses in your inbox, get another mail provider (or contact me off list).
 
It's so good to not have to worry about getting a virus when my clients bring me dodgy flash drives etc.
I'm certainly not anti-windows but the virus free environment on a mac means one less thing to worry about.
 
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