Macbook pro hard drive

[SauRoNZA]

This is what is on the Mac Air, but when I copied it to the Seagate drive it seemed to unpack it into folders. Is that correct ?

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Are you sure you formatted the 500GB as OSX Journaled and not something else?

It shouldn't unpack it into folders...unless you've got show hidden folders on by default, but then that would shop up on the original drive as well.

But you shouldn't be copying it to the Seagate anyway.

On your Macbook Air connect the 500GB drive. Now from INSIDE your OSX run the "Yosemite Install.app" file and then go through the motions.

Have it restart and then point it to the 500GB. It will then install on that machine and you can select to boot from it by holding Alt on startup.

Obviously don't make a mistake and select your own drive.

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Also for future reference you don't even need to remove the drive from the Macbook Pro.

Get a Firewire or Thunderbolt cable (whichever one is supported by both) and then start up the broken machine by holding T.

T = Target Drive mode which makes the Macbook one very expensive external hard drive.

You can then mount it or do whatever you want with it (including re-installing) on the working machine. Great way to quickly Disk Utility a machine as well, but then using the recovery partition is often easier for that.

 

[MagicDude4Eva]

If you have done the obvious (PRAM reset) and checked that the DIMMS and HDD is seated properly it is a HDD failure (all MacBook issues we had were always related to a faulty HDD) - just ditch the drive and get a new one. I think if the laptop is older than 3 years, a HDD replacement is the best choice. (There is a slim chance of a system board issue - we only had 1 case, but this was an immediate OOB failure).

 

[SauRoNZA]

If you have done the obvious (PRAM reset) and checked that the DIMMS and HDD is seated properly it is a HDD failure (all MacBook issues we had were always related to a faulty HDD) - just ditch the drive and get a new one. I think if the laptop is older than 3 years, a HDD replacement is the best choice. (There is a slim chance of a system board issue - we only had 1 case, but this was an immediate OOB failure).

Sounds more like a broken partition scheme at this point than an outright failure.

 

[bwana]

Also for future reference you don't even need to remove the drive from the Macbook Pro.

Get a Firewire or Thunderbolt cable (whichever one is supported by both) and then start up the broken machine by holding T.

T = Target Drive mode which makes the Macbook one very expensive external hard drive.

You can then mount it or do whatever you want with it (including re-installing) on the working machine. Great way to quickly Disk Utility a machine as well, but then using the recovery partition is often easier for that.

A R500 cable - plus an adapter if the one machine has thunderbolt and the other firewire vs a screwdriver?

 

[daveza]

Are you sure you formatted the 500GB as OSX Journaled and not something else?


But you shouldn't be copying it to the Seagate anyway.

On your Macbook Air connect the 500GB drive. Now from INSIDE your OSX run the "Yosemite Install.app" file and then go through the motions.

Have it restart and then point it to the 500GB. It will then install on that machine and you can select to boot from it by holding Alt on startup.

From Grantza -

drag / copy the install file to the drive that is to have yosemite installed.
go to that drive, double click the install file to begin the installation process, a drive list will be presented for the installation, obviously select the drive that is connected externally that will ultimately return to the laptop as it's internal drive.

I'm not sure now which option to take.

 

[GreGorGy]

I mean ExFAT / NTFS / HFS+ / FAT32

 

[bwana]

I'm not sure now which option to take.

Doesn't really matter as long as you make a copy of the installer before you run it.

 

[Lord Flacko]

Might not be the drive but the HDD cable could be faulty. To confirm install OS X on that same hard drive, place it in an external enclosure. Boot off the external and see what happens.

 

[daveza]

I took the drive, plugged it into my pc and ran an EasyRecovery Drive test - which threw up at least 10 i/o errors so it's definitely a vrot hard drive.

 

[GreGorGy]

These apps are all various kinds of packages and sparse bundles. If you copy Pages (AppStore ver) from one drive to another, it takes forever as it copies what seems to be each and every file. I have found that if you zip it , copy the zip across and then unzip it goes faster and doesn't appear as this collection of files. But that being said, I recommend you find [-]Lion[/-] Disk Maker and use that to create a Yosemite install USB - it will make your life easier, no matter what.

 

[SauRoNZA]

These apps are all various kinds of packages and sparse bundles. If you copy Pages (AppStore ver) from one drive to another, it takes forever as it copies what seems to be each and every file. I have found that if you zip it , copy the zip across and then unzip it goes faster and doesn't appear as this collection of files. But that being said, I recommend you find [-]Lion[/-] Disk Maker and use that to create a Yosemite install USB - it will make your life easier, no matter what.

You should only ever see that if copying to a non-OSX formatted harddrive.

I'm also not convinced the time it takes to compress and then copy from one to the other will be any different from just copying it, if the file systems are both OSX Journaled that is.

 

[GreGorGy]

Not exactly. Drag pages to another HFS drive and watch the file count. Especially bad over USB.

 

[SauRoNZA]

A R500 cable - plus an adapter if the one machine has thunderbolt and the other firewire vs a screwdriver?

Well depends how many you expect to work on in future.

I always have the cables anyway.

Also the only way to really help those that have non-removable drives. (Well not that you can put in a standard external anyway).

 

[SauRoNZA]

Not exactly. Drag pages to another HFS drive and watch the file count. Especially bad over USB.

Yeah I've also done the wait don't worry.

Would be interesting to time the whole zip+copy process vs just the copy process.

For science and all that.

 

[bwana]

Yeah I've also done the wait don't worry.

Would be interesting to time the whole zip+copy process vs just the copy process.

For science and all that.

Well, since I happened to have a Mavericks installer lying around…

 

[SauRoNZA]

For science.

Thanks. If I still had a Mac I would have done it myself.

It's the problem with looking at status bars though...they always take longer the more you look at them.

 

[GreGorGy]

Well, since I happened to have a Mavericks installer lying around…
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Mmmm - via USB? When I did it, the USB copy was just taking for ever. Lemme try again, given I only did it once - maybe something else was an issue at the time.

 

[bwana]

Mmmm - via USB? When I did it, the USB copy was just taking for ever. Lemme try again, given I only did it once - maybe something else was an issue at the time.

Yes, USB 3. Seagate drive.

 

[GreGorGy]

Yes, USB 3. Seagate drive.

Ok - I had mine on a USB 2 MBP circa 2010. I will try again later and see.

 

[bwana]

Ok - I had mine on a USB 2 MBP circa 2010. I will try again later and see.

Tried it via USB and the transfer was 2 seconds quicker with the Zip file

However the big stumbling block is the decompression, which if you think about it is a totally pointless step because of what's happening.