Macrovision blocking recording from TopTV?

:cry: Thanks anyway for the time and effort.

Will just simply do it via RF into CVBS in my TV Capture Card then :erm:
 
Yep, capture on computer via capture card OK and in stereo too! Might need to upgrade machine though (odd dropped frame here and there). That's what made the hard-drive recorder ideal - always perfect recordings.
 
Magicflame said:
Yep, capture on computer via capture card OK and in stereo too! Might need to upgrade machine though (odd dropped frame here and there). That's what made the hard-drive recorder ideal - always perfect recordings.
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What Capture card are using? Software encoding or Hardware encoding?

Hauppage 350 PVR has on board (hardware) encoding support and takes little to none of the PC CPU cycles.
 
Astound said:
What Capture card are using? Software encoding or Hardware encoding?

Hauppage 350 PVR has on board (hardware) encoding support and takes little to none of the PC CPU cycles.
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No mine's an old piece of crap - Lifeview something or other. The advantage off course is that whereas the Hauppage is (probably) hardware locked against recording protected streams, similar to my hard-drive recorder. The Lifeview - being software based - the protection can be circumvented by the capture software used. It would not record using the original software, but is happy to do so using video capturix or v-dub.
 
Magicflame said:
No mine's an old piece of crap - Lifeview something or other. The advantage off course is that whereas the Hauppage is (probably) hardware locked against recording protected streams, similar to my hard-drive recorder. The Lifeview - being software based - the protection can be circumvented by the capture software used. It would not record using the original software, but is happy to do so using video capturix or v-dub.
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Interesting... I have some old cards lying around :) Let's see if they might be handy.
 
Just a pity that the softwares that thumbs it's nose at protection schemes are not are convenient as the proprietary software; what with scheduled recording et all!
 
Frame dropping sorted by the way. I have not used the capture card for so long that I was a little rusty on the configuration. Was set to maximum bit rate plus no compression. In other words, the hard drive could not cope with the in-rush of data (something in the order of 500 Mb in about 3 seconds!).
 
Magicflame said:
Frame dropping sorted by the way. I have not used the capture card for so long that I was a little rusty on the configuration. Was set to maximum bit rate plus no compression. In other words, the hard drive could not cope with the in-rush of data (something in the order of 500 Mb in about 3 seconds!).
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Damn! why not use the MPEG-2 DVD Codec? its 25fps and it's dvd quality & stereo. You'll get about 1.5 gb per hour.
 
OK, thanks to VirtualDub, I have some video incoming :D Seems to be working perfectly - just running compression.
 
Romito said:
Damn! why not use the MPEG-2 DVD Codec? its 25fps and it's dvd quality & stereo. You'll get about 1.5 gb per hour.
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I'm searching for a soft that can capture directly to MPEG2 as we speak, but I suspect that my capture card wont support that. Fingers crossed - any suggestions anyone?
 
OK, I went on a hunch and tried this: 1. AV-out from decoder to PC 2. Start the capturing software, but only previewing, not actually capturing. 3. TV-out (in theater mode) from PC to AV-in on standalone PVR/Hard Drive Recorder. 4. Records perfectly on PVR with great video and stereo audio! Hella finnicky, but do-able for any of you with similar setup. Of course this only works for capture cards with software encoding as discussed previously in this thread. (might work with hardware versions piped into v-dub or similar, but I have no card like that available to test) AntiThesis, any chance you might try that and see?
 
Magicflame said:
OK, I went on a hunch and tried this: 1. AV-out from decoder to PC 2. Start the capturing software, but only previewing, not actually capturing. 3. TV-out (in theater mode) from PC to AV-in on standalone PVR/Hard Drive Recorder. 4. Records perfectly on PVR with great video and stereo audio! Hella finnicky, but do-able for any of you with similar setup. Of course this only works for capture cards with software encoding as discussed previously in this thread. (might work with hardware versions piped into v-dub or similar, but I have no card like that available to test) AntiThesis, any chance you might try that and see?
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I personally don't like to pipe my signal through so many connectors and cables, so it goes without saying that the best connectors and cables are preferable to limit image degradation as much as possible. Also the sound may be sent directly to the PVR for the same reason, provided that it stays in synch with video.
 
Will give it a go this evening - though I got it working just with a straight RCA out to S-Video last night (albeit at a very low resolution) so will try it that way with full audio first.
 
It all works brilliantly as described above, except that it was with plugging cables directly where they need to go. Right now I am scratching my head to try and route everything via AV amps and multi-switches galore! Bloody nightmare; and I just know that when I get it all working the missus will have a thing or 2 to say about how "unnecessarily-complicated" it all is and how she doesn't know how to record a damn thing now! Mind you, there's always the RF cables to fall back to; probably best, cause the PVR reverts back to Program1 rather than AV1 in the event of power-outage in any case.
 
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