Manual vs Automatic

No, initial post was merely a question, your rebuttals since, and failure to actually answer the question, merely confirmed it.

Sorry dude, but the witless approach to drop in here to insult me, not knowing the background or context, to defend a fellow pensioner, is clear to see.
 
You make it sound like modern cars drive the car for you...but they don't. Very few have anything active, it's all passive technology for when things go wrong.

You still need to pay attention 110% just the same.

Only difference is when you get it wrong you don't end up in a tree.

Yeah, that is not quite what I meant but I see how it can be interpreted that way, in my opinion it takes more effort to drive something like my old Golf versus my much newer Touareg.
 
Yeah, that is not quite what I meant but I see how it can be interpreted that way, in my opinion it takes more effort to drive something like my old Golf versus my much newer Touareg.

For sure, lot more manual labour.

Also a lot more visceral experience.

60km/h in the Golf feels twice as fast as in the Touareg because of more noise, floppy suspension etc.
 
Yeah, that is not quite what I meant but I see how it can be interpreted that way, in my opinion it takes more effort to drive something like my old Golf versus my much newer Touareg.
Isn't that what an automatic is supposed to be all about ? :unsure: :D

I had no problem getting your message.:D
 
The body shop gave me a tazz while they fixed my bumper. I got out of the car to see if something was wrong. Nope, its just how it drove. old and manual does not mean involved.... and it REALLY depends what kind of modern auto it is. obviously an underpowered modern with a slushbox will suck royally.
 
For sure, lot more manual labour.

Also a lot more visceral experience.

60km/h in the Golf feels twice as fast as in the Touareg because of more noise, floppy suspension etc.

Thats mostly because a Golf feels like its going to kill you constantly whilst it cocks its back tyre around corners....
 
Thats mostly because a Golf feels like its going to kill you constantly whilst it cocks its back tyre around corners....

Enter Toyota Tazz or Opel Corsa or Chev Spark in the space if you prefer.

But yes, Golfs are ****.
 
Apologies to all those that are disciplined reasonable drivers of BMWs. But clearly, I am not the only one who has an issue.
 
Isn't that what an automatic is supposed to be all about ? :unsure: :D

I had no problem getting your message.:D

It is more than just the gearbox to take in to consideration ;) The brakes aren't as effective, there is no ABS, there is no tachometer, there is just about zero sound deadening, there is no aircon, etc, etc.
 
Why not, go for it.

Maybe I'll start posting stories of pensioners with driving skills and their manuals. Oh wait, there's one with pics already - it's called the bad driving thread :)
 
have not told the story and the troll is already there waiting to pounce. It is OT but no matter.

I've pointed out the factual inconsistencies of your posts a number of times. You have refused to respond under the guise of ignore.

If I'm the troll here, you sir are the sire of the troll species.
 
I've pointed out the factual inconsistencies of your posts a number of times. You have refused to respond under the guise of ignore.

If I'm the troll here, you sir are the sire of the troll species.

Dude, if you don't like his posts just ignore it. All you're doing now is killing discussion.
 
Dude, if you don't like his posts just ignore it. All you're doing now is killing discussion.

Dude, he's the one taking pot shots from the sidelines :unsure:

I'm not stopping him from posting. Besides, he can't see my posts, so what's the problem?
 
Americans Bought More EVs Than Manual-Transmission Cars In 2019

Sigh. Sigh. I know it’s pointless banter to lament about the demise of the manual transmission in the United States, but I’m going to do it anyway because I’m told it’s healthy to let it all out. The fact is fewer and fewer people are buying new, stick-shift cars. This was clearer than ever last year.

To contextualize the data, Green Car Reports pulled numbers for both electric-car and manual-transmission car sales. Both amounted to less than two percent of the market, but even so, EVs pulled ahead by a slim margin.

EVs made up 1.6 percent of U.S. retail sales in 2019, while manuals were merely 1.1 percent. The outlet notes in 2018, manuals “still held a thin lead” of 1.6 percent versus 1.5, but fell back as we headed into Q3 of 2019. Total EV sales for 2019 amounted to about 270,000 cars.

 
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