Manual vs Automatic

Sinbad said:
Nope...
ebd357145ef956c7c61410af003238ff.jpg
Click to expand...
Just change the CVT oil regularly or you will pay...

They are nice though.
 
airborne said:
Just change the CVT oil regularly or you will pay...

They are nice though.
Click to expand...
Interval is 100k miles apparently. But will ask them to do it at next service, in August

Weird feeling initially, like driving a car with a slipping clutch. But it does suit the diesel engine very well
 
Sinbad said:
Interval is 100k miles apparently. But will ask them to do it at next service, in August

Weird feeling initially, like driving a car with a slipping clutch. But it does suit the diesel engine very well
Click to expand...
The interval should probably be less than that, around 100k km, some people do it more regularly if they plan on keeping the vehicle a long time just as insurance.

CVT are amazing for just idling along, give it a try it's really relaxing. The revs fall to some ridiculous level and all engine and transmission noises become almost none existent due to the low revs. Because of the infinite CVT gearing you'll still be near the speed limit. Play with it and you'll find the sweet spot.

It's an interesting way of driving, I used to be a pretty manic driver before I got a CVT and then got used to it. Now for me the slower the better, which also helps with fuel economy and the UK fuel costing around R26/L that's a good thing.

On the flip side if you have a decent engine they still shunt when you floor it.
 
airborne said:
The interval should probably be less than that, around 100k km, some people do it more regularly if they plan on keeping the vehicle a long time just as insurance.

CVT are amazing for just idling along, give it a try it's really relaxing. The revs fall to some ridiculous level and all engine and transmission noises become almost none existent due to the low revs. Because of the infinite CVT gearing you'll still be near the speed limit. Play with it and you'll find the sweet spot.

It's an interesting way of driving, I used to be a pretty manic driver before I got a CVT and then got used to it. Now for me the slower the better, which also helps with fuel economy and the UK fuel costing around R26/L that's a good thing.

On the flip side if you have a decent engine they still shunt when you floor it.
Click to expand...
Think that's kind of the point of a CVT: finding the perfect rev range to maintain fuel economy while still having enough oomph so that you don't get into a head-on while overtaking an 18-wheeler.
 
airborne said:
The interval should probably be less than that, around 100k km, some people do it more regularly if they plan on keeping the vehicle a long time just as insurance.

CVT are amazing for just idling along, give it a try it's really relaxing. The revs fall to some ridiculous level and all engine and transmission noises become almost none existent due to the low revs. Because of the infinite CVT gearing you'll still be near the speed limit. Play with it and you'll find the sweet spot.

It's an interesting way of driving, I used to be a pretty manic driver before I got a CVT and then got used to it. Now for me the slower the better, which also helps with fuel economy and the UK fuel costing around R26/L that's a good thing.

On the flip side if you have a decent engine they still shunt when you floor it.
Click to expand...
Proves my point! Toy automatics trying to pass on highways, no go. The automatic turns the owner into an idiot.
 
airborne said:
The interval should probably be less than that, around 100k km, some people do it more regularly if they plan on keeping the vehicle a long time just as insurance.

CVT are amazing for just idling along, give it a try it's really relaxing. The revs fall to some ridiculous level and all engine and transmission noises become almost none existent due to the low revs. Because of the infinite CVT gearing you'll still be near the speed limit. Play with it and you'll find the sweet spot.

It's an interesting way of driving, I used to be a pretty manic driver before I got a CVT and then got used to it. Now for me the slower the better, which also helps with fuel economy and the UK fuel costing around R26/L that's a good thing.

On the flip side if you have a decent engine they still shunt when you floor it.
Click to expand...
70mph was 2000rpm.
The service schedule calls for an inspection of the oil every 30000km, and replacement every 45000 if the car is used for heavy towing.

I imagine that during the inspection they can tell if it needs replacing.
 
Sinbad said:
70mph was 2000rpm.
The service schedule calls for an inspection of the oil every 30000km, and replacement every 45000 if the car is used for heavy towing.

I imagine that during the inspection they can tell if it needs replacing.
Click to expand...
The oil inspection involves checking for metal content that comes off the chain belt. .......
 
Geoff.D said:
As I said, only IFF the driver owner DRIVES the thing correctly!
Click to expand...
It's hard to get it wrong... Foot to the floor and done.

Unlike in a manual econobox with no torque and the driver tries to accelerate hard in top gear and basically does 80 to 120 in 10 minutes...
 
Sinbad said:
It's hard to get it wrong... Foot to the floor and done.

Unlike in a manual econobox with no torque and the driver tries to accelerate hard in top gear and basically does 80 to 120 in 10 minutes...
Click to expand...
That is where you are wrong. As soon as you drive a manual you become master of the roads

/s
 
Most drivers are idiots, the automatics arent a cause for that. Thats just pathetic driving. Then you have the youngsters that just want to well dice.... more idiots.

So the reason why automatic, mainly due to car driving automation.
Ie stop start in traffic, collision prevention braking, lane change assist, lane keeping assist. rear brake assist.

Basically if you're an idiot who doesnt stop and normally hit someone (like most idiots do). We have now built it into the car to prevent your idiotic driving. And to sadly, keep you (and especially others) ALIVE!
 
And electric cars has benefits. They have not as much moving parts as engines, so you wont have....
oil leaks for one
smokey engines
pollution

Also they are as quiet as a mouse (we may see more driveby shootings (as in the series "Weeds")

But best part of all?
No dumb fuel levy tax.

So bring them on.

By the way a lot of electrics are faster. Quiet and fast.
 
Corelli said:
And electric cars has benefits. They have not as much moving parts as engines, so you wont have....
oil leaks for one
smokey engines
pollution

Also they are as quiet as a mouse (we may see more driveby shootings (as in the series "Weeds")

But best part of all?
No dumb fuel levy tax.

So bring them on.

By the way a lot of electrics are faster. Quiet and fast.
Click to expand...
Lithium ion batteries. Production, longevity, and safety. Let’s not forget the whole Galaxy Note saga.
 
Under the skin: why torque converters are coming back from the dead

'Slushbox' automatic transmissions are once again being found on new car models - and all in the name of efficiency

The absence of a manual gearbox on the latest crop of performance cars has been a growing source of consternation for many who just don’t find any kind of semiautomatic ’box involving enough. The new BMW M3 Competition, for example, isn’t offered with a manual at all in the UK.

Its transmission isn’t a dual-clutch automatic, though. Instead, BMW has reverted to a ZF-supplied eight-speed torque-converter automatic with paddle shifters to gain efficiency.

Since the spectre of CO2 reared its head, manufacturers have worked hard to find compelling alternatives to torque-converter autos back when the nickname ‘slushbox’ was still relevant. Before that, the automated manual (AMT) was the first attempt to take charge of shifting in a way that gave manufacturers some chance of controlling what the engine was doing, efficiency-wise.

Used by Ferrari, Alfa Romeo, BMW and others, they were supposed to offer a glimpse into what it’s like to drive a full-on sequential dog-engagement motorsport ’box without its harshness or self-destructive tendencies.

www.autocar.co.uk

Under the skin: why torque converters are coming back from the dead | Autocar

'Slushbox' automatic transmissions are once again being found on new car models - and all in the name of efficiency
www.autocar.co.uk www.autocar.co.uk

Snip.jpg
 
Geoff.D said:
Proves my point! Toy automatics trying to pass on highways, no go. The automatic turns the owner into an idiot.
Click to expand...
Doesn't prove your point at all. Idiot drivers are idiot drivers, an auto or cvt will actually hide it better than a manual.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top
Sign up to the MyBroadband newsletter
X