Marikana Shootings Farlam Commission Thread

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MARIKANA SANGOMA BURNT LIVE SHEEP: WITNESS

A sangoma hired by striking Marikana miners in August 2012 burnt two live sheep in a night ritual, the Farlam Commission of Inquiry heard on Friday.

Police witness, identified only as Mr X, told the commission that on the night of August 11, 2012, the black and white sheep were tied in sheets and placed on two fires.

"The sheep were fetched from the shacks nearby. The sangoma placed them on the fire, they were alive. A black liquid flowed out and it was said this fluid would be used for rituals," said Mr X.

"We were then taken to the river for a cleansing. We undressed and the sangoma was in front of us. We went into the water naked. The sangoma poured some muti into the river and put some into our mouths."

There were about 200 mineworkers in the group and they were taken through the rituals in batches.

A mixture was made of the fat and blood which dripped from the burning sheep, and this was dispensed to the strikers at the koppie (hill) at Marikana.

"It was said 'men will be made men'. We were told that incisions would be made on our bodies. Secrets of the mountain had to end there. We were given rules to follow," he said.

"We were told to abstain from sex for seven days, not to go where there is water, not to eat pork, sheep, and fish. We were also told not to have golden teeth, necklaces, watches, and coins."

Mr X was led in submitting his evidence by Tebogo Mathibedi SC, for the police.

Mathibedi showed several pictures taken at Marikana in August 2012 and Mr X was able to identify himself among other protesters.

Mr X testified via video link from an undisclosed location on Friday. He claims to be one of the striking Marikana miners who underwent traditional rituals, swallowing the ashes of the sheep.

Mr X said the miners were under strict instructions not to shoot before police opened fire.

"Every one of us had his own blade, he cut us above the eyes, in the head, all the joints, below and above the nipples, on the sides of the hips, on the toes and ankles," he said.

The hearing took an early break on Friday morning as Mr X was said to be "feeling unwell".

The commission, chaired by retired judge Ian Farlam, is investigating the deaths of 44 people during strike-related violence at Lonmin's platinum mining operations at Marikana, near Rustenburg in the North West.

Thirty-four people, mostly striking mineworkers, were shot dead in a clash with police, over 70 were wounded, and another 250 arrested on August 16, 2012. Police were apparently trying to disarm and disperse them.

In the preceding week, 10 people, including two policemen and two security guards, were killed.

The inquiry continues.


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Date : 20 Jun 2014 11:14
 

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MARIKANA INQUIRY POSTPONED

The Farlam Commission of Inquiry was postponed on Friday because police witness Mr X fell sick while testifying.

Mr X complained that he felt unwell at around 11am, after he had testified for about two hours.

The witness had previously requested a break. When the commission resumed, he gave evidence briefly about the traditional medicine used on the miners by a sangoma in August 2012.

He then requested another break.

"Chairman, may I be granted permission to see my gogo [his word for traditional healer]. These people are working, using lot of muthi against me," said the secretive witness.

Police lawyer Tebogo Mathibedi, who was leading Mr X, then requested chairman of the commission, retired judge Ian Farlam, for a stand-down.

Mathibedi later told the commission that Mr X could not proceed on Friday.

The public hearings in Pretoria will resume on Monday.

Mr X's face was revealed for the first time at the Farlam Commission of Inquiry in Pretoria on Thursday.

Gasps and whispers were heard in the Tshwane municipal auditorium where the commission is holding public hearings into the 2012 Marikana shooting.

Families of slain mineworkers, mineworkers who survived the shooting, and relatives of killed mine security guards watched intently as the witness appeared on big screens. He may not be named in order to protect his identity.

On Friday, Farlam repeatedly warned the people in the auditorium to remain quiet during the hearings.

Earlier, Mr X told the inquiry that a sangoma hired by protesting Marikana miners burnt two live sheep in a night ritual.

The fat and blood which dripped from the burning sheep were made into a mixture dispensed to the miners at the koppie.

"It was said 'men will be made men'. We were told that incisions would be made on our bodies. Secrets of the mountain had to end there. We were given rules to follow," he said.

"We were told to abstain from sex for seven days, not to go where there is water, not to eat pork, sheep and fish. We were also told not to have golden teeth, necklaces, watches and coins."

Mr X claims he was one of the protesting Marikana miners who underwent traditional rituals.

The inquiry, led by Farlam, is investigating the deaths of 44 people during strike-related violence at Lonmin's platinum mining operations at Marikana.

Thirty-four people, mostly striking mineworkers, were shot dead in a clash with police, over 70 were wounded, and another 250 arrested on August 16, 2012. Police were apparently trying to disarm and disperse them.

In the preceding week, 10 people, including the two policemen and two security guards, were killed.


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Date : 20 Jun 2014 11:41
 

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"Chairman, may I be granted permission to see my gogo [his word for traditional healer]. These people are working, using lot of muthi against me," said the secretive witness.

Centuries of superstition, when will this end.
 

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BID FOR MR X'S MENTAL OBSERVATION OPPOSED

An application to have a witness known only as "Mr X" undergo mental observation was opposed at the Farlam Commission of Inquiry on Monday.

"The application is unsound in law and ought to be dismissed," evidence leader Kameshni Pillay said in Pretoria.

She said the application had no merit.

"There's no factual basis for the application," Pillay said.

Dali Mpofu SC, for wounded and arrested Marikana mineworkers, asked for Mr X to undergo mental observation. He may not be named to protect his identity.

"The nature and purpose of this application is simply to seek a ruling that Mr X's competence and capability to give evidence as a witness in the commission be investigated, preferably by means of a medical inquiry into his mental or psychological state," Mpofu said.

He said the rights of affected parties had to be protected.

"Mr X is a very important witness, and the issues he is pronouncing [on] are issues that are of a very serious nature. The allegations he makes in respect of certain people have far-reaching implications," Mpofu said.

He said on Friday that Mr X said his physical or mental distress was caused by supernatural powers and actions against him.

Mr X's face was revealed to the commission for the first time on Thursday, when he started giving evidence via video link from another location.

He testified that pieces of flesh were cut from one of two Lonmin security guards, Hassan Fundi and Frans Mabelani, strikers killed. The flesh was brought to a sangoma (traditional healer) to make muti. This was supposed to make the strikers bulletproof in their confrontation with police.

He testified about "the killing and intimidation of Lonmin employees who were unwilling to take part in the violent strike".

Pillay said Mr X's evidence had been clear and coherent.

National Union of Mineworkers' lawyer Karel Tipp said Mr X's evidence was clear and its reliability could be tested during the commission.

Mike van As, for Lonmin, said Mr X's evidence corroborated evidence given by other witness.

The police also opposed the application.

The Association of Mineworkers and Construction Union supported it.

The commission is investigating the deaths of 44 people during the violent wage-related strike at Lonmin's platinum mining operations at Marikana, near Rustenburg, North West.

On August 16, 2012, 34 people, mostly mineworkers, were shot dead by police, who were allegedly trying to disarm and disperse them.

Ten people, including two policemen and the two security guards, were killed during the preceding week.


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Date : 23 Jun 2014 14:06
 

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oh so now it doesn't suit their agenda he is crazy?
 

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MR X'S MENTAL OBSERVATION BID DISMISSED

An application for a witness known only as "Mr X" to be referred for mental observation was dismissed by the Farlam Commission of Inquiry on Monday.

"I am not satisfied that sufficient grounds exist that Mr X is not a competent witness," Judge Ian Farlam said in Pretoria.

Farlam said he had observed the witness and was satisfied he was competent.

Earlier, Dali Mpofu SC, for wounded and arrested Marikana mineworkers, asked for Mr X to undergo mental observation. He may not be named to protect his identity.

"The nature and purpose of this application is simply to seek a ruling that Mr X's competence and capability to give evidence as a witness in the commission be investigated, preferably by means of a medical inquiry into his mental or psychological state," Mpofu said.

He said the rights of affected parties had to be protected.

"Mr X is a very important witness, and the issues he is pronouncing [on] are issues that are of a very serious nature. The allegations he makes in respect of certain people have far-reaching implications," Mpofu said.

He said on Friday that Mr X said his physical or mental distress was caused by supernatural powers and actions against him.

Mr X's face was revealed to the commission for the first time on Thursday, when he started giving evidence via video link from another location.

He testified that pieces of flesh were cut from one of two Lonmin security guards, Hassan Fundi and Frans Mabelani, strikers killed. The flesh was brought to a sangoma (traditional healer) to make muti. This was supposed to make the strikers bulletproof in their confrontation with police.

He testified about "the killing and intimidation of Lonmin employees who were unwilling to take part in the violent strike".

The commission is investigating the deaths of 44 people during the violent wage-related strike at Lonmin's platinum mining operations at Marikana, near Rustenburg, North West.

On August 16, 2012, 34 people, mostly mineworkers, were shot dead by police, who were allegedly trying to disarm and disperse them.

Ten people, including two policemen and the two security guards, were killed during the preceding week.


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Date : 23 Jun 2014 14:49
 

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Earlier, Dali Mpofu SC, for wounded and arrested Marikana mineworkers, asked for Mr X to undergo mental observation.

Sorry Mpofu - the other side of the story will be told.
 

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SECURITY GUARD'S TONGUE, CHIN CUT OUT: MR X

The tongue and chin of a security guard were cut out after he was killed at a hostel in Marikana, the Farlam Commission of Inquiry heard on Monday.

The flesh was "given to the inyanga to burn till they were ashes," said the witness dubbed "Mr X".

It was mixed with muti to be used for men to lick and be strengthened.

Mr X testified about how two security guards were killed on August 12, 2012.

When the striking workers arrived at the hostel, the security guards tried to talk to the strikers, but they ignored them.

"They tried shooting, but their guns didn't work.

"The guns didn't work because the inyanga said we would not be shot at because of the rituals we underwent.

"They fired the bullets but the bullets did not harm us. The bullets get stuck on your body," he said.

Mr X said two security guards ran towards a car which was parked near a bus stop.

Shots were fired at the security guards and a car was set alight with a security guard inside. One of the security guards was stabbed with a spear.

Mr X said he also participated by hitting the security guard on his cheek with a panga.

"Bhele cut the security guard's chin and tongue.

"Anele scooped the blood with a bush knife and put it in the plastic bag," he said.

Mr X said after the security guards were killed, more people went to the mountain for the rituals.

"People who did not believe in muti came after the security guards were killed, they came in their numbers, " he said.

The strikers did rituals at a mountain where they were instructed not to be intimate with women, not to bath, and to carry their sticks in a horizontal position not touching the ground.

They were not allowed to change clothes and had to use their fists when pointing.

Mr X said the strikers marched to the K4 shaft and set alight seven vehicles.

While Mr X was testifying about the killings a woman left the auditorium crying.

The commission continues.

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Date : 23 Jun 2014 17:14
 

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MR X HELPED KILL WORKER, COMMISSION HEARS

A man was killed because he went to work during the 2012 platinum miners' strike in Marikana, the Farlam Commission of Inquiry heard in Pretoria on Tuesday.

"We stabbed the man. I also took part in it. I used my panga to strike him," the witness, identified only as "Mr X", told the inquiry.

He may not be identified to protect his identity, and is testifying via video link from an undisclosed location.

Mr X said they asked Julius Langa where he was going and he told them he was going to work.

"We asked, 'how can you go to work when there is a strike?' and we killed him," Mr X said.

Langa was killed around 4am on August 13, 2012 near a railway line in Marikana, near Rustenburg in the North West. He was stabbed 18 times, his post-mortem showed.

Mr X said the strikers were armed with pangas, firearms, and spears.

Before Langa was killed a meeting was held where it was decided people going to work should be killed.

"It was decided we should kill people to send a message that there is a strike," he said.

The inquiry is investigating the deaths of 44 people during strike-related violence at Lonmin's platinum mining operations at Marikana.

Thirty-four people, mostly striking mineworkers, were shot dead in a clash with police, over 70 were wounded, and another 250 arrested on August 16, 2012.

Police were apparently trying to disarm and disperse them.

In the preceding week, 10 people, including two policemen and two security guards, were killed.


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Date : 24 Jun 2014 11:17
 

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Fine upstanding gents these miners are, their traditional weapons and stuff that they are allowed to walk around with freely just for show and all.
 

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STRIKERS KILL POLICE DURING CONFRONTATION

Two policemen were killed and one was injured during a confrontation with strikers in Marikana in the North West during a platinum miners' strike, the Farlam Commission of Inquiry heard on Tuesday.

Police fired rubber bullets after the strikers refused to leave their weapons, a witness identified as "Mr X" said.

One of the police officers was hit with a gun on his forehead and the other was chopped on the back of his head with a panga.

Mr X may not be identified to protect his identity, and is testifying via video link from an undisclosed location.

One of the police officers was still alive when the strikers left him.

Mr X said he chased a third police officer who ran towards a car and hit him on his left leg.

He was testifying about a confrontation the strikers had with the police on August 13, 2012.

The strikers were asked by police to leave their weapons but they refused. The strikers were armed with spears, firearms and pangas.

Police fired rubber bullets and used teargas on the strikers.

Mr X said the police's firearms, cellphones and a radio were taken by the strikers after they were attacked. He said when the strikers met the police they were going to an informal settlement to kill people.

When the strikers were walking towards the informal settlement they were singing, ululating, hitting their weapons and were in a crouching position to make the muti work faster.

Mr X said they were singing, "tighten your balls young man, otherwise you won't come right".

He said the strikers knew that police could not harm them.

After the police were attacked, the strikers went back to the mountain where they were told to join the Association of Mineworkers and Construction Union (Amcu).

They were told to destroy red T-shirts because they didn't want to be associated with the National Union of Mineworkers (NUM).

"I was forced to join Amcu, otherwise I was going to be injured," he said.

Mr X said the strikers were told to fill in a form to join Amcu.

When Mr X was testifying a video of the strikers' encounter with the police was shown.

Earlier, the inquiry heard that Julius Langa was killed because he was going to work.

"We stabbed the man. I also took part in it. I used my panga to strike him," Mr X said.

Langa was killed around 4am on August 13, 2012 near a railway line in Marikana, near Rustenburg in the North West. He was stabbed 18 times, his post-mortem showed.

The inquiry is investigating the deaths of 44 people during strike-related violence at Lonmin's platinum mining operations at Marikana.

Thirty-four people, mostly striking mineworkers, were shot dead in a clash with police, over 70 were wounded, and another 250 arrested on August 16, 2012.

Police were apparently trying to disarm and disperse them.

In the preceding week, 10 people, including two policemen and two security guards, were killed.

The commission was postponed early on Tuesday because Mr X was feeling tired.


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Date : 24 Jun 2014 15:21
 

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MARIKANA WAS DANGEROUS FOR COPS: EXPERT

Intervention at Marikana during a violent strike in 2012 was complicated and dangerous for the police, the Farlam Commission of Inquiry heard on Thursday.

"I have acknowledged in all my statements that there were a lot of heavily armed people with traditional weapons. I do not dispute that the threats that the police were facing, particularly on the 16th [August 2012], were from firearms," said public order policing expert Gary White.

"This was a very difficult, complex, and dangerous operation for SAPS [the SA Police Service]. I have said that I have sympathy for an organisation having to deal with this."

However, White said it would be fallacious to suggest that every person in the crowd had to be considered dangerous. Public order policing principles still had to be applied.

"This was a crowd management situation with additional complexities and threats. My criticism [of the SAPS] is based on the response to the threat faced by police," he said.

"In the wide spectrum of public order events, the situation at Marikana was extremely challenging but that does not mean that the application of public order crowd management principles was no longer appropriate."

In his statements to the inquiry, White has criticised the implementation of the SAPS intervention plan drawn up by Lt-Col Duncan Scott.

White was led in giving evidence to the inquiry by Michelle le Roux, for the SA Human Rights Commission (SAHRC).

The SAHRC had asked White, an international public order policing expert and a former chief superintendent of Northern Ireland's police service, to submit a professional analysis of the Marikana shootings.

Last year, Le Roux said White's criticism related to planning, leadership, and the execution of the operation, which had been described as haphazard, rushed, negligent, and inadequate.

The inquiry, chaired by retired judge Ian Farlam, is investigating the deaths of 44 people during strike-related violence at Lonmin's platinum mining operations at Marikana, near Rustenburg in the North West.

Thirty-four people, mostly striking mineworkers, were shot dead in a clash with police, over 70 were wounded, and another 250 arrested on August 16, 2012. Police were apparently trying to disarm and disperse them.

In the preceding week, 10 people, including two policemen and two security guards, were killed.


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Date : 26 Jun 2014 12:56
 

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LEVEL OF FORCE AT MARIKANA UNDER SPOTLIGHT

Factors influencing the level of force used by the police during the Marikana shootings came under the spotlight at the Farlam Commission of Inquiry on Friday.

Police lawyer, Ishmael Semenya SC, cross-examined international public order policing expert Gary White, who has criticised the police's Marikana intervention.

"Mr White, if we are able to establish that this group of 300 or 400 sharp instrument wielding people was attacking the police, I want to suggest that it is a threat that could be contained through non-lethal force," said Semenya.

White said the police's response to the crowd would be determined by a number of circumstances.

"... The police may be able to engage those people by using their cover of vehicles and using other tactical options available to them," he said.

"It may be necessary for them to use live rounds if individual officers feel that there is an imminent threat to their lives. I am not trying to underestimate the level of threat potentially posed by this group."

Semenya played several videos showing protesters moving towards the police. The commission's chairman, retired judge Ian Farlam, said it would be ultimately up to him to decide whether the miners were intent on attacking the police or were trying to move to a destination beyond them.

Semenya said Lonmin mine security guards' experiences indicated that the use of non-lethal bullets had not been effective in repelling crowds of protesters.

White, a former chief superintendent of Northern Ireland's police service, was asked by the SA Human Rights Commission (SAHRC) to provide professional analysis of the Marikana shootings.

Semenya showed a slideshow of people who had died, including Julius Langa, who was allegedly killed by protesters for going to work on August 13, 2012.

He also showed images of National Union of Mineworkers' shop steward Isaiah Twala, who was killed on August 14, 2012. Twala was shot and hacked to death. His body was found by the police on the side of a hill with a bull's skull on his chest.

"Out of curiosity, these are not images you would see in Northern Ireland from a public unrest situation. Am I right? This goes beyond just killing," said Semenya.

White said the Marikana images were shocking.

Langa's postmortem results showed that he was stabbed 18 times.

White's statements to the inquiry criticised the implementation of the police's intervention plan drawn up by Lt-Col Duncan Scott.

Last year, SAHRC lawyer Michelle le Roux said White's criticism related to the planning, leadership, and execution of the operation, which was described as "haphazard, rushed, negligent, and inadequate".

The inquiry is investigating the deaths of 44 people during strike-related violence at Lonmin's platinum mining operations at Marikana, near Rustenburg in the North West.

Thirty-four people, mostly striking mineworkers, were shot dead in a clash with the police, more than 70 were wounded, and 250 were arrested on August 16, 2012. Police were apparently trying to disarm and disperse them.

In the preceding week, 10 people, including two policemen and two security guards, were killed.


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Date : 27 Jun 2014 12:18
 

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MAN BELIEVED TO BE A SPY KILLED IN MARIKANA

A man believed to be a spy was shot dead by strikers during the violent strike at Lonmin in Marikana in August 2012, the Farlam Commission of Inquiry heard on Monday.

Isaiah Twala was shot dead at the side of the hill at Marikana after he was found to be carrying a cellphone on August 14, 2012, a witness identified only as "Mr X" told the inquiry in Pretoria.

Mr X may not be identified to protect his identity, and is testifying via video link from an undisclosed location.

He said it was alleged Twala was using his cellphone to send information to the rival National Union of Mineworkers (NUM).

"They took him to the other side of the mountain, his gun was taken... after they had gone I heard a gunshot," he said.

Twala's body was found by police on the side of the hill with a bull's skull on his chest.

Mr X said Twala was a shop steward for the NUM at the mine's Karee shaft.

The commission is investigating the deaths of 44 people during strike-related violence at Lonmin's platinum mining operations at Marikana, near Rustenburg in the North West.

Thirty-four people, mostly striking mineworkers, were shot dead in a clash with police, over 70 were wounded, and another 250 arrested on August 16, 2012.

Police were apparently trying to disarm and disperse them. In the preceding week, 10 people, including two policemen and two security guards, were killed.

The Association of Mineworkers and Construction Union gained prominence during that strike.


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Date : 30 Jun 2014 12:46
 

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Mr X's testimony isn't doing all that much good for Dali Mpofu's little crusade if you ask me.
 

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You never bought the poor little innocent abused and victimized miner bit did ye?
 
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