Matrix 4 gets a release date

Herr der Verboten said:
I would lie if I said I'm not disappointed but that was expected having picked up where this was going and what it turned out to be . What as a movie it failed at was weak characters, ok dialog, generic action and

5/10 for being a matrix expansion
4/10 being judged as a movie

As I've said it's 'ok' but not so great as movie.
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(Taken the spoilers out)...I found the Matrix the best of the original trilogy and they progressively slid in quality and attention-holding.
Maybe this will go in reverse?
Having a 4th movie that doesn't perform well will simply mean the 5th movie either wraps everything up really suddenly, or gets better leading to the 6th movie which is the best of the lot!
 
JohnMao said:
(Taken the spoilers out)...I found the Matrix the best of the original trilogy and they progressively slid in quality and attention-holding.
Maybe this will go in reverse?
Having a 4th movie that doesn't perform well will simply mean the 5th movie either wraps everything up really suddenly, or gets better leading to the 6th movie which is the best of the lot!
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Perhaps. We did get the Mandalorian after the NuStarwars flop.
 
JohnMao said:
Maybe this will go in reverse?
Having a 4th movie that doesn't perform well will simply mean the 5th movie either wraps everything up really suddenly, or gets better leading to the 6th movie which is the best of the lot!
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Maybe it fits the general plot narrative, mankind in weird trouble (funny coincidence that btw) and still heading down the hill :- (
 
It's apparently "about love", and there's apparently even a bit about the Palestine situation. The then brothers and now sisters got self indulgent at around the second movie and have gotten worse since. The anti-woke crowd might have a point this time round.
 
It is a bit of a remake of old scenes and much of a bore an hour into it…. Retelling Matrix 1 really

Maybe I watched too much Marvel since the third movie?
 
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Welllllll ... having watched it in cinema, I think that barely makes it watchable.

This entire movie was a self-aware spoof of the first three movies.

The best part was they finally really delved into the Neo/Trinity love interest, which lead to some genuine feels.

The bad was the endless fight scenes were all "been there, done that", and by the fifth one it was just a yawn-fest.

Sadly I've realised The Matrix is entirely based on the initial concept, but once you get that concept ... then it's done. If you're on the fence over watching it, I'd say it's worth watching just for some light entertainment, but don't expect anything lifechanging.
 
Foxhound5366 said:
Welllllll ... having watched it in cinema, I think that barely makes it watchable.

This entire movie was a self-aware spoof of the first three movies.

The best part was they finally really delved into the Neo/Trinity love interest, which lead to some genuine feels.

The bad was the endless fight scenes were all "been there, done that", and by the fifth one it was just a yawn-fest.

Sadly I've realised The Matrix is entirely based on the initial concept, but once you get that concept ... then it's done. If you're on the fence over watching it, I'd say it's worth watching just for some light entertainment, but don't expect anything lifechanging.
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5th and 6th will be better...
 
Herr der Verboten said:
5th and 6th will be better...
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The weird part was they had some actual new ideas in this movie, but they gave them ten seconds of airtime each: I'd love to see movies centred around the battle between the human-friendly machines vs the human-unfriendly machines, or "a day in the life" in the 'real-world' with all its grunge (and now strawberries). Even the possibilities of marble machines (exobots ... what were they called?) might lead to some interesting story arcs (other than cat burglars).
 
Foxhound5366 said:
The weird part was they had some actual new ideas in this movie, but they gave them ten seconds of airtime each: I'd love to see movies centred around the battle between the human-friendly machines vs the human-unfriendly machines, or "a day in the life" in the 'real-world' with all its grunge (and now strawberries). Even the possibilities of marble machines (exobots ... what were they called?) might lead to some interesting story arcs (other than cat burglars).
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Hopefully when the time comes they fully invest into sound, lighting, fighting, dialog and 'presence' as with the very 1st movie. It's actually that bad when a movie from the 90s is better as-is as your latest in 2021.That is what I get when I compare them movie to movie e.g. on camera work, sound or lightning. Your men are already dead are so much more believable / carries weight when I listen to the original vs matrix 4. You know the little things people forget or don't give enough love these days.
 
Herr der Verboten said:
Hopefully when the time comes they fully invest into sound, lighting, fighting, dialog and 'presence' as with the very 1st movie. It's actually that bad when a movie from the 90s is better as-is as your latest in 2021.That is what I get when I compare them movie to movie e.g. on camera work, sound or lightning. Your men are already dead are so much more believable / carries weight when I listen to the original vs matrix 4. You know the little things people forget or don't give enough love these days.
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Yeah, dialog is important. There are parts of this new movie that I still don't understand. I never had that issue with the first movie ... it was a big concept but pretty simple. This one was just so far up its own ass that I still can't tell you what "the swarm" was, or why it ended conveniently so everyone could escape.
 
Foxhound5366 said:
Yeah, dialog is important. There are parts of this new movie that I still don't understand. I never had that issue with the first movie ... it was a big concept but pretty simple. This one was just so far up its own ass that I still can't tell you what "the swarm" was, or why it ended conveniently so everyone could escape.
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So true... haha
 
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