MBSA Managers Suspended

As far as I can see, and for whatever reasons may become clear in the future, jumping off a bridge and almost killing yourself could not have been the smartest move. It definitely takes some impaired judgement to do something like that.
 
timgaul said:
Also, if we assume alcohol, then we can assume all were drunk. Its not blame the victim, its a cock up all round.
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Yes, but the difference is, one guy ended up in hospital and the other two on a paid holiday. Not you particularly tg, but others in this thread seem far more concerned with the fate of the suspended managers - why?

timgaul said:
As far as I can see, and for whatever reasons may become clear in the future, jumping off a bridge and almost killing yourself could not have been the smartest move. It definitely takes some impaired judgement to do something like that.
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For sure, but remaining in one spot to be kicked and pistol-whipped is also not a strategy designed to ensure your health.

As to your comment about MB manager by day and vigilante by night - please point me to a single comment by anyone in this thread that would support that?
 
dlk001 said:
and if we assume all were drunk, we can assume some were drunk to an extent of being evil.
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Trust me, thats a given. People with less inhibitions and impaired moral judgement doth not a good situation make.

It will be interesting to know what the whole truth is, and not some carefully worded story to create hype and sensationalism. The media are too much to blame these days for trying to incite hatred, in the name of selling newspapers.
 
timgaul said:
As far as I can see, and for whatever reasons may become clear in the future, jumping off a bridge and almost killing yourself could not have been the smartest move. It definitely takes some impaired judgement to do something like that.
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Or fearing for your life?
 
timgaul said:
As far as I can see, and for whatever reasons may become clear in the future, jumping off a bridge and almost killing yourself could not have been the smartest move. It definitely takes some impaired judgement to do something like that.
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The question remains,was he injured before he fell off the bridge,or did he sustain his injuries when he fell of the bridge?

There is also the possibility that he was helped off the bridge,by persons unknown.
 
chiskop said:
Yes, but the difference is, one guy ended up in hospital and the other two on a paid holiday. Not you particularly tg, but others in this thread seem far more concerned with the fate of the suspended managers - why?

For sure, but remaining in one spot to be kicked and pistol-whipped is also not a strategy designed to ensure your health.
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Yes, but at some point, when your survivial instinct kicks in its generally not to aid you in killing yourself. Run away, yes. Jump over the edge of a 10m drop, no.

chiskop said:
As to your comment about MB manager by day and vigilante by night - please point me to a single comment by anyone in this thread that would support that?
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It was a hyperbole to try and emphasise the fact that the whole story doesn't add up. There are definitely some missing pieces.
 
Piepalook said:
The question remains,was he injured before he fell off the bridge,or did he sustain his injuries when he fell of the bridge?

There is also the possibility that he was helped off the bridge,by persons unknown.
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Again, I revert to my comments that there are missing pieces to this puzzle. I blame the media for poor reporting in order to sensationalise the story. Things do not add up and there are definitely extenuating circumstances towards which I have only speculated.

But in so much as I elude to the fact that the managers are night time vigilantes, I claim this was a drunken brawl. We can only speculate because we have not been told everything.
 
timgaul said:
Yes, but at some point, when your survivial instinct kicks in its generally not to aid you in killing yourself. Run away, yes. Jump over the edge of a 10m drop, no.



It was a hyperbole to try and emphasise the fact that the whole story doesn't add up. There are definitely some missing pieces.
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You are right.
Too many gaps.

It is also possible that in his drunkenness he fell of the bridge, with no help from anyone, and decided that it would be a good idea to implicate the two managers.
 
timgaul said:
The media are too much to blame these days for trying to incite hatred, in the name of selling newspapers.
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I'm sooo tired of the blame the media argument.

They're reporting on a story - clearly the man who jumped has spoken to them. Have the other men? Is that because they refused, or because they weren't approached? In my experience it's more likely because they refused - but I'm not making any judgements on that. Presumably these guys are facing charges, and don't want to prejudice themselves.

I also missed the part in the story where any hatred was incited - yes, they were reporting on what appears to be on the face of it an act of hatred - but I missed the incitement in the article.

Please could you underline the part where the media is guilty of inciting hatred?
 
The alleged attack occurred when managers from Ikhwezi Truck Tech went to a Kei Mouth resort to commemorate the buying-out of their company, which on March 1 was taken over by MBSA.

He said the attack took place as they were retiring to their chalets at the resort after spending the night at the bar.
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http://www.dispatch.co.za/article.aspx?id=182278

I see. Doubt they were on site then.

Interesting, the human psyche then?

HAHAHAHA! Yes!
 
chiskop said:
I'm sooo tired of the blame the media argument.

They're reporting on a story - clearly the man who jumped has spoken to them. Have the other men? Is that because they refused, or because they weren't approached? In my experience it's more likely because they refused - but I'm not making any judgements on that. Presumably these guys are facing charges, and don't want to prejudice themselves.

I also missed the part in the story where any hatred was incited - yes, they were reporting on what appears to be on the face of it an act of hatred - but I missed the incitement in the article.

Please could you underline the part where the media is guilty of inciting hatred?
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Then why leave out the part about them coming back from the pub, obviously eluding to the fact that they were intoxicated?
 
timgaul said:
Then why leave out the part about them coming back from the pub, obviously eluding to the fact that they were intoxicated?
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What does that have to do with what you quoted?

If you're referring to the original post - that's not me, nor was there a link to read further.
 
chiskop said:
Congratulations - you win at the internets. :rolleyes:
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Hehehe, one dolla!

But that was just my point. There were missing parts (even if it had turned out to be something else). And that I why I blame the media. Withhold to sensationalise the story.
 
timgaul said:
Hehehe, one dolla!

But that was just my point. There were missing parts (even if it had turned out to be something else). And that I why I blame the media. Withhold to sensationalise the story.
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Um, what did they withhold? What did they sensationalise? Sure, the part about the company function was left out of the original post - but I'm not sure that the full story was quoted.

But now you've read the story in the same media that you accusing of skipping parts, to get the full story (such as it is right now).

The article isn't TBH sensationalised - read a tabloid to see what sensationalism looks like.

Remember, just because you don't agree with how the story is reported or the story itself, doesn't mean it's sensationalised or incitement to hatred.
 
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