Megaupload for MWEB

The thing about the terms is that they are very vague. If you use a mirror or a lesser known one click host or shock/horror have a subscription to an http downloading site, you could be bypassing their shaping - well depending on how you define their terminology you could be. So say a file is present on torrent - it will be shaped to death. If it's present on a news server - it will be less shaped. If it's on RS it's even less shaped. If it's on an obscure one click host it's no longer shaped. If it's on an HTTP subscription site then it definately won't be shaped. So if you choose the last 2 you could be bypassing their shaping. You could be an abuser. Now if we had some clarity that this is not the case and that MWEB won't blame users for the shortcomings of its own shapers we would be a little happier. :)
 
PeterCH said:
If this doesn't concern you, aren't you being STUPID about it by constantly commenting to us about it? Are you MWEB? May I sue you if you say something and it's contrary to what MWEB states? If not, please don't pretend to be smart, you're not saying anything particularly intelligent and your reasoning is not better than ours.
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My point is that it doesn't matter what your reasoning is for MWeb being in the wrong, it's only a problem for a tiny minority, and a minority who are really abusing a service that's being offered below cost already. So making such a big fuss about not being allowed to do this is quite rich. It's the reality of our local uncapped market which MWeb basically created for the mainstream.
 
racer said:
actually using port 1723 is not bypassing shaping. its a random port which WILL be shaped. in fact, using port 1723 will probably result in worse speeds than using port 80 which has priority. its when you use P2P on a prioritised port like 80 that you're bypassing shaping!
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It's shaped by protocol, not by port.
 
Alestorm said:
Haha, you guys are being quite stupid about this, there's probably been about 50 people banned so far. All of them, as MWeb said, have been using massive amounts of bandwidth trying to max the lines and/or bypassing shaping. The risk of getting banned is basically non-existent if you aren't doing those two things. We could really end this whole argument if the people who want/"need" to download this much just went into a corner and complained about MWeb all day. It doesn't matter to anybody else except this tiny minority.
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Can't believe someone would be stupid enough to insult themselves by continuing to debate in a debate they consider stupid... you're obviously part of 'this minority' as you're still here.


Alestorm said:
My point is that it doesn't matter what your reasoning is for MWeb being in the wrong, it's only a problem for a tiny minority, and a minority who are really abusing a service that's being offered below cost already. So making such a big fuss about not being allowed to do this is quite rich. It's the reality of our local uncapped market which MWeb basically created for the mainstream.
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And now you're doing MWEB's finances - great :rolleyes:
 
So I'm not allowed to download stuff 24/7, is it correct? Leave PC on all day and night downloading stuff is no no?
 
xrapidx said:
Can't believe someone would be stupid enough to insult themselves by continuing to debate in a debate they consider stupid... you're obviously part of 'this minority' as you're still here.
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I didn't say I consider it stupid, I actually just consider the continuous complaining about not being able to download such massive amounts for so cheap to be stupid. It's completely dominated all discussions about MWeb's product, and it's not even an issue for 99% of the users. And no I'm not in this minority even though I download a good bit.

xrapidx said:
And now you're doing MWEB's finances - great :rolleyes:
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It doesn't take MWeb's finance people to figure out that not much changed from when bandwidth was R19/GB or so till when people could download 500GB a month every month for R530. What do think suddenly made this profitable? Silly question.. because it isn't.

And seeing as both of your replies were sarcastic comments, what do you think about the top few percent of users downloading massive amounts and then complaining so bitterly about not being able to do it at many times below the cost we'd have to pay before? The whole debate is blown out of proportion by these few people if you ask me.
 
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So it's not possible to hit 90GB on a 384K line every month without breaking one of the MWeb rules?
 
Kitty09 said:
So it's not possible to hit 90GB on a 384K line every month without breaking one of the MWeb rules?
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You should really just PM the MWeb rep here, although he already said if you only want to use the account for downloading permanently every month then it's not for you, they have other uncapped accounts. No one else can really answer for you even though they happily will.

No 384Kb users have been disconnected yet from what we've seen on MyADSL though, the usage is far less than 4Mb users who create a problem.
 
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