Men are Screwed (rule 43)

[Ancalagon]

Are radical incels REALLY all that different from typical feminists other than the diametric opposition?

Yes. People listen to radical feminists. Nobody listens to incels OR mens rights activists (and there is a difference).

A radical feminist is seen like a saint - you wish you could be as holy as her, but alas, you cannot.

A divorced men's rights activist fighting for a fair chance to raise his own children is seen like a jealous angry man baby who should just open his wallet and stop fighting to be involved in the upbringing of his children.

 

[rambo919]

Yes. People listen to radical feminists. Nobody listens to incels OR mens rights activists (and there is a difference).

A radical feminist is seen like a saint - you wish you could be as holy as her, but alas, you cannot.

A divorced men's rights activist fighting for a fair chance to raise his own children is seen like a jealous angry man baby who should just open his wallet and stop fighting to be involved in the upbringing of his children.

True as many of that is the really radical incels tend to project the lunacy of the feminist unto all woman.... which to me exactly the same only opposite.

 

[Ancalagon]

True as many of that is the really radical incels tend to project the lunacy of the feminist unto all woman.... which to me exactly the same only opposite.

If you read the posts of some hardcore MGTOW/MRAs, they are really misogynistic. They really and truly hate women.

I don't hate women - I just think feminism is like a mind virus. It just wants to survive at any cost, and doesn't actually care about what is really best for women themselves.

 

[Blackhand]

Nothing wrong with making a lifelong commitment to your partner.
You can even have a "wedding ceremony" with friends and family to celebrate that commitment if you like the tradition.

No need to bring the government into it, that just carries huge unnecessary risk until there is some reform in the divorce/family laws.

 

[rambo919]

If you read the posts of some hardcore MGTOW/MRAs, they are really misogynistic. They really and truly hate women.

I don't hate women - I just think feminism is like a mind virus. It just wants to survive at any cost, and doesn't actually care about what is really best for women themselves.

Mass psychosis seems more apt....

 

[rambo919]

Nothing wrong with making a lifelong commitment to your partner.
You can even have a "wedding ceremony" with friends and family to celebrate that commitment if you like the tradition.

No need to bring the government into it, that just carries huge unnecessary risk until there is some reform in the divorce/family laws.

The moment you allow government that kind of power you basically make it a god over you, then it's priests can dissolve your marriage and confiscate the resulting children because after all they are the result of the marriage it gave you.

 

[technofool]

I'm very encouraged by all the "woke male" comments here. Men seem to be clearly aware of the problem but we still need to decide what exactly to do to tackle it. I think the best for me is just avoiding women as much as possible. No closed door meetings, minimal conversation, no after hours interaction, no mentoring, ...

@Emjay is a typical covert feminist. She comments in a "men's issues" thread where men are sharing sincere feelings and experiences to help other men and all Emjay can do is hunt for an opening to demean them. She attacks them for "having a pity party" and crying "man tears". When you show her facts she refuses to admit her ignorance or change her attitude, typical feminist tactics. It's just a waste of time and energy. The overwhelming effort required to rehabilitate feminists is not worth the final results. Even the men married to "one of the good ones" are living on the razor's edge because the day she decides you are not treating her like the Queen she is, she will call down the full might of the State on your disgusting misogynistic ass and then "divorce rape" you just because she can.
Sadly the best you can do is enjoy what remains of a life with as little crazy in it as possible.

Feminism was an abortion from the very first time it reared its irrational head more than 200 years ago. Feminism is founded on 2 conflicting ideas and only insane people can believe 2 opposing ideas at the same time. Feminism relies on the political idea that women are just as good as men in every respect and, at the same time, the sentimental idea that women require some special chivalrous treatment and protection in society because they are somehow weaker & more fragile than men. You can't be the same and different at the same time.

In 1820 just as the suffragettes were rising and attacking men and burning private property demanding equality they also successfully convinced male law makers that they should stop flogging women criminals. Up until 1820 male & female convicts were flogged equally for equal crimes.

Today some women will try to say they only believe in the sane bits of feminist empowerment but there is no active visible sane feminist refutation of the militant crazy man-haters that they say are not "real feminists" but they refuse to expel these infiltrators. I think this convicts all women of irrationality at best.
Remember when Charlize Theron on national TV told all men that if they weren't actively fighting the rapists in their midst then they were also rapists. Now the same for women if you are not expelling and shaming the lying man-haters you must also be a lying man-hater. I wonder if @Emjay has ever had need to reprimand a lying militant feminist?

 

[MandM]

Nice question. Why is it important? Is there any difference if you are murdered by someone you know?

The answer is: In 50.2% of cases where a perpetrator was identified (18.5% of the total), the female victim was killed by an intimate partner. How sad is that?

I would say that it is important, because an intimate partner is someone you trust and who you wouldn't expect to be responsible for killing you.

Of course all murders matter, but don't you think that females exhibit less risk-taking behaviour leading to murder than males? I'm thinking gangs etc.

 

[Emjay]

@Emjay is a typical covert feminist. She comments in a "men's issues" thread where men are sharing sincere feelings and experiences to help other men and all Emjay can do is hunt for an opening to demean them. She attacks them for "having a pity party" and crying "man tears". When you show her facts she refuses to admit her ignorance or change her attitude, typical feminist tactics. It's just a waste of time and energy. The overwhelming effort required to rehabilitate feminists is not worth the final results. Even the men married to "one of the good ones" are living on the razor's edge because the day she decides you are not treating her like the Queen she is, she will call down the full might of the State on your disgusting misogynistic ass and then "divorce rape" you just because she can.
Sadly the best you can do is enjoy what remains of a life with as little crazy in it as possible.

Who are you? I don't know you, and have never engaged with you on anything, so you know sweet f'all.

I have been outspoken about how **** feminism has become for a very long time. Maybe you should drop by the American US thread and see how the Regressive Left like labelling me a woman hater and misogynist. All I see is a bunch of crybabies, men who have been jilted and others who are sour because they have to support their kids. Also, a little hint. If you want people to come round to your issues, don't alienate them in the process. Because I am sure as hell am not going to give two hoots about men's issues any longer after this **** show of a thread. There is also a very distinct lack of other women's voices in here as they just don't give a crap. Don't blame them.

 

[technofool]

The answer is: In 50.2% of cases where a perpetrator was identified (18.5% of the total), the female victim was killed by an intimate partner. How sad is that?

I would say that it is important, because an intimate partner is someone you trust and who you wouldn't expect to be responsible for killing you.

Of course all murders matter, but don't you think that females exhibit less risk-taking behavior leading to murder than males? I'm thinking gangs etc.

Thank you for digging up the stats. Anecdotes are not evidence but these numbers are totally expected and believable.
This properly frames the need for a month to focus on violence against women or special language (femicide, intimate partner violence, gender based violence, etc, etc) for murder of females as though this is out of all proportion. Just more feminist lies. These figures show there is absolutely no reason for special attention for women, half of intimate partners killed are male and half are female. If anything we should keep a jaundiced eye on intimate partners of every gender.
Women have learned the trick that if they bitch and moan long and loud enough they will get their way llike spoiled children. It's men's fault for humouring their demands over the last 200 years, now we find ourselves in this unhappy mess. Thank you to male feminists.

 

[Emjay]

You guys should really start an Agony Uncle column and a whine club. The amount of whining in here is pretty high.

 

[technofool]

Who are you? I don't know you, and have never engaged with you on anything, so you know sweet f'all.

I have been outspoken about how **** feminism has become for a very long time. Maybe you should drop by the American US thread and see how the Regressive Left like labelling me a woman hater and misogynist. All I see is a bunch of crybabies, men who have been jilted and others who are sour because they have to support their kids. Also, a little hint. If you want people to come round to your issues, don't alienate them in the process. Because I am sure as hell am not going to give two hoots about men's issues any longer after this **** show of a thread. There is also a very distinct lack of other women's voices in here as they just don't give a crap. Don't blame them.

Typical duplicity. You allude that you are open to changing your opinion but when you are presented witth evidence you show no acknowledgement or likelihood to change your sexist beliefs. When someone refutes your biased opinions with facts you cry outrage. This is the unfair and uncaring treatment men have gotten used to in our everyday lives and you come here to insult us. The 200 year jig is up because men have started speaking up now.
I would happily drop by the "American" thread if I knew where to find it.

 

[Emjay]

Typical duplicity. You allude that you are open to changing your opinion but when you are presented witth evidence you show no acknowlegement or likelyhood to change your sexist beliefs. When someone refutes your biased opinons with facts you cry outrage. This is the unfair and uncaring treatment men have gotten used to in our everyday lives and you come here to insult us. The 200 year jig is up because men have started speaking up now.
I would happily drop by the "American" thread if I knew where to find it.

Maybe you should get your facts straight before you make such stupid posts with assumptions about people you know nothing about. You want this woman to educate you? Sorry, I have better things to do with my time.

 

[technofool]

You guys should really start an Agony Uncle column and a whine club. The amount of whining in here is pretty high.

How to make friends and influence people - insult them. Really???

 

[technofool]

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Maybe you should get your facts straight before you make such stupid posts with assumptions about people you know nothing about. You want this woman to educate you? Sorry, I have better things to do with my time.

I would appreciate if you could show me where I have erred in my argument instead of childish personal attacks. You asked for facts., I gave you facts and you ignored them. Great!

 

[MandM]

Thank you for digging up the stats. Anecdotes are not evidence but these numbers are totally expected and believable.
This properly frames the need for a month to focus on violence against women or special language (femicide, intimate partner violence, gender based violence, etc, etc) for murder of females as though this is out of all proportion. Just more feminist lies. These figures show there is absolutely no reason for special attention for women, half of intimate partners killed are male and half are female. If anything we should keep a jaundiced eye on intimate partners of every gender.
Women have learned the trick that if they bitch and moan long and loud enough they will get their way llike spoiled children. It's men's fault for humouring their demands over the last 200 years, now we find ourselves in this unhappy mess. Thank you feminists.

You misread, 50% of the total number of females murdered are murdered by their intimate partner. The other 50% of females are murdered by other individuals.

 

[technofool]

You misread, 50% of the total number of females murdered are murdered by their intimate partner. The other 50% of females are murdered by other individuals.

OK I thought it was too good to be true Can you link the source so I can comment better.

 

[Swa]

This thread is so predictable. From man tears about custody and paying maintenance to wishing feminism never happened... Let me just remind you charming men that women were not permitted to vote, or be educated, or own property, etc, etc. Feminism served its purpose. Women are better off being able to choose what they want.

Who in your lives has ever complained about the patriarchy? The only times I have ever encountered that level of stupidity is on Twitter, and it is usually from blue haired feminists sprouting the usual critical theory BS.

You guys come across just as bad as those women. You all talk about about individual decisions, after breathlessly complaining about how the system is oppressing you. It's laughable.

Original feminism was honourable. But it never got the memo that it's served its purpose and goes on to fight made up battles. It's a small subset of women as I said but it's loud enough to ruin it for all women. They've set up a system that oppresses everyone, men and women.

 

[technofool]

Original feminism was honourable. But it never got the memo that it's served its purpose and goes on to fight made up battles. It's a small subset of women as I said but it's loud enough to ruin it for all women. They've set up a system that oppresses everyone, men and women.

At least the women (who might feel oppressed by feminist bullying) do not have the might of the law against them. Never mind the negative public opinion where white males are demonized and disrespected to the extent that it makes good sense to some to make adverts that disparage masculinity in the belief that it will lift sales.

 

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Who are you? I don't know you, and ...

Recruit @Emjay as the token feminist mascot for MyBB ...