Microsoft 365 unveiled

[Kerrits]

I'm sure it will filter down to consumers eventually. Although it is a bit expensive for my taste. When you keep your PC for 4+ years, it is much cheaper to just buy windows outright.

As for people complaining about this, is this the only way to get Windows for companies? If not, why are you upset?

 

[AlphaJohn]

But a large number of regular folk aren't on the latest version of Windows.

They can still upgrade, just use https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/acc...2459594)(TnL5HPStwNw-do1zkNBHgEjgCH_DqORg9g)()

As Per Tecspot you can also use an Original key for Win 7+

Use an Old Windows 7 or 8.1 Key
Another known and still available loophole to score a free Windows 10 upgrade is to enter valid Windows 7 or Windows 8 product keys into the Windows 10 installer -- or later in the operating system.

We'd expected Microsoft to close this activation workaround soon after it was uncovered back in August, but as it turns out, it’s still wide open. I created a virtual machine and installed Windows 10 using an ISO image obtained from the official Windows 10 media creation tool.

 

[sajunky]

I suspect it won't be compulsory. Just a bundle option that suits many. Win and Office will be separate prods for the foreseeable future, maybe decades.

This is a message Microsoft want you to spread around. It may suit some indeed, but most of people do not run Windows 10 for a simple reason, it is still in beta.

 

[Absinth]

Some businesses like to move into a pure opex model.

Ideal for companies who are project focused and add staff resources when and where they are needed.

No long term commitment required

 

[ToxicBunny]

This is a message Microsoft want you to spread around. It may suit some indeed, but most of people do not run Windows 10 for a simple reason, it is still in beta.

Only in your head...

Its RTM my friend.. and has been for a long while.

 

[HunterGR]

This is a message Microsoft want you to spread around. It may suit some indeed, but most of people do not run Windows 10 for a simple reason, it is still in beta.

I await the day when rpm decides to tell everyone that MyBB is hosted on a Windows Server. :crylaugh: I would love to see what you would post then.

 

[crackersa]

I predicted this back in 2005 and people where laughing at me.

They are doing it 3 years earlier that what I said but still. Almost wanna join glug again just to rub it into some people's faces.

Wasbt there a roadmap of this floating aroubd back in 2015? I recall a 15 or 20 year roadmap

 

[ToxicBunny]

I await the day when rpm decides to tell everyone that MyBB is hosted on a Windows Server. :crylaugh: I would love to see what you would post then.

He wouldn't cos he would vanish and stop M$ stealing any more of his data or using him for a botnet mining bitcoin

 

[RVQ]

Microsoft is going to murder the Server, Network and Security Vendors when Windows 7 is EOL.

No need to buy hardware for AD, SharePoint, Exchange, File Servers, PBX,..., less switches needed, smaller firewalls, no need for 3rd party AV, Encryption, MDM,.. And no need to hire so many highly paid techies, just a few junior and mid level guys to administrate and help end users...

 

[ToxicBunny]

Microsoft is going to murder the Server, Network and Security Vendors when Windows 7 is EOL.

No need to buy hardware for AD, SharePoint, Exchange, File Servers, PBX,..., less switches needed, smaller firewalls, no need for 3rd party AV, Encryption, MDM,.. And no need to hire so many highly paid techies, just a few junior and mid level guys to administrate and help end users...

I'm assuming you don't work for a large corporate or enterprise sized business then

 

[RVQ]

I'm assuming you don't work for a large corporate or enterprise sized business then

Nope, but I'm working with a whole lot of them and where I'm not I know someone that is... The shift is here, and where its not there are C-Level discussions happening...

Windows 10, Office 365 and EMS roll outs are accelerating, and the combination is starting to displace a whole lot of other Vendors in EMEA. Windows 7 is EOL 2020, with a multi-billion dollar war chest in two years they going to be a force of nature along with Amazon and Google...

 

[ToxicBunny]

Nope, but I'm working with a whole lot of them and where I'm not I know someone that is... The shift is here, and where its not there are C-Level discussions happening...

Windows 10, Office 365 and EMS roll outs are accelerating, and the combination is starting to displace a whole lot of other Vendors in EMEA. Windows 7 is EOL 2020, with a multi-billion dollar war chest in two years they going to be a force of nature along with Amazon and Google...

Yes the rollouts are accelerating but they bring with them a whole new set of problems which still require those specialist vendors to help solve as well as specialist high end skilled workers to implement and maintain

MS is also not the only player and definitely not the number one player in many segments and I doubt they ever will be . Any company that goes all in on the MS stack and ignores other better products is in for a world of pain at some point

 

[RVQ]

Yes the rollouts are accelerating but they bring with them a whole new set of problems which still require those specialist vendors to help solve as well as specialist high end skilled workers to implement and maintain

MS is also not the only player and definitely not the number one player in many segments and I doubt they ever will be . Any company that goes all in on the MS stack and ignores other better products is in for a world of pain at some point

Yes there are problems and will always be but Microsoft is now solving these problems, while maybe not the leader they doing it at a fraction of the cost. At the end of the day your bosses, bosses,... boss makes his bonus on that tens to hundreds of millions saved. Its the easiest sales pitch, one slide with the millions in saving...

I see the AV Vendors taking the first and biggest hit. I know at least 4 Enterprises +40000 Users in EMEA that are switching to Bitlocker, Defender + Advanced Threat Protection. If its bundled as part of your Microsoft 365 Licensing, its going to be very hard to explain to management why you paying for another product...

 

[ToxicBunny]

Yes there are problems and will always be but Microsoft is now solving these problems, while maybe not the leader they doing it at a fraction of the cost. At the end of the day your bosses, bosses,... boss makes his bonus on that tens to hundreds of millions saved. Its the easiest sales pitch, one slide with the millions in saving...

I see the AV Vendors taking the first and biggest hit. I know at least 4 Enterprises +40000 Users in EMEA that are switching to Bitlocker, Defender + Advanced Threat Protection. If its bundled as part of your Microsoft 365 Licensing, its going to be very hard to explain to management why you paying for another product...

You are thinking in very limited product scopes, as well as compliance scopes as well. The AV Vendors are hardly only providing AV solutions, they provide a myriad of solutions in many areas, AV is just the very public face of the product suite.

Also it will be very easy to justify an extra spend if Microsofts AV product isn't up to scratch given the ransomware/destuctionware currently floating around out there. The first time a big MS AV enabled organisation gets hit, you can bet your bottom dollar the other guys will jump ship in 2 seconds.