Microsoft is becoming a gaming powerhouse

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Microsoft to become a gaming powerhouse

Once praised for their ability to innovate in all spheres of technology, Microsoft seems to be unwittingly steering towards a stronger future in hardcore gaming. That’s not such a bad thing however.
 
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"Silverlight failed against Flash."

You are truly f#cking cluesless !!! xBox and Windows Phone are based on XAML which is the foundation of Silverlight. Where do you do your research ?
 
I think their operating system is competing pretty damn well :)
 
Kinect was awesome... the first time I played it, but the novelty wore off very quickly.

Joe Average said:
"Silverlight failed against Flash."

You are truly f#cking cluesless !!! xBox and Windows Phone are based on XAML which is the foundation of Silverlight. Where do you do your research ?
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using your own product doesn't mean that the rest of the market has accepted it.
 
Huh? Amazon EC2 and Google AppEngine are two vastly different technologies. This all sounds like made up words to make up an article.
 
Joe Average said:
"Silverlight failed against Flash."

You are truly f#cking cluesless !!! xBox and Windows Phone are based on XAML which is the foundation of Silverlight. Where do you do your research ?
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Yes ,but can you run XBOX and Windows Phone in a browser? :p

You insult yourself with your profanity. Of course Silverlight has failed against Flash. The context is internet applications because that's flash's platform. See http://www.statowl.com/custom_ria_market_penetration.php

Silverlight is a graphical user interface engine, not an operating system for Windows Phone or XBOX.

What's XAML (XML really) got do with the argument against Flash? I mean MSXML (XML really), which is the basis for Actionscript, is the basis for Flash which is also a winner. So XML is the winner!! (kidding)

If I followed your argument, I could say Android beats Silverlight (AND Flash for that matter) because there are way more Android phones there are Windows phones and Flash phones (of course, there ARE NO flash phones, duh!). And Silverlight doesn't even run on Android (without downloading some obscure plugin)...wheras all Android devices play flash out the box. I might have shot myself in the foot with this argument though because Apple devices don't play flash but thats not becasue it CAN'T its because Steve Jobs was boycotting Flash. Be that as it may, there are more Android phones than Windows phones, so I would say silverlight is loser :D

See how stupid your reasoning is...its based on the number of devices it can be deployed on (and can run on it)

Your argument that Silverlight is the trump card for Windows Phones might be blown out the water if you look at articles like this: http://www.i-programmer.info/profes...3323-windows-phone-7-sunk-by-silverlight.html

Before you say I'm clueless too, for the record, I'm a senior .NET software dev of 7 years. Actually I hope to see Flash die in the next couple of years with the advent of HTML5 and CSS3. As it is libraries like jQuery can do so much that Flash (and silverlight) can do on any browser on any platform.

Regarding XBox I think its brilliant. Beats any media center there is out there.
Related to XBOX, I've just finished building and XBMC system on a Linux platform (not sure how thats related to XBOX. Then again...Microsoft didn't develop XMBC...but I degress
 
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rogerwe said:
Yes ,but can your run XBOX and Windows Phone in a browser? :p

You insult yourself with your profanity. Of course Silverlight has failed against Flash. The context is internet applications because that's flash's platform. See http://www.statowl.com/custom_ria_market_penetration.php

Silverlight is a graphical user interface engine, not an operating system for Windows Phone or XBOX.

What's XAML (XML really) got do with the argument against Flash? I mean MSXML (XML really), which is the basis for Actionscript, is the basis for Flash which is also a winner. So XML is the winner!! (kidding)

If I followed your argument, I could say Android beats Silverlight (AND Flash for that matter) because there are way more Android phones there are Windows phones and Flash phones (of course, there ARE NO flash phones, duh!). And silverlight doesn't even run on Android (without downloading some obscure plugin)...wheras all android devices play flash out the box. I might have shot myself in the foot with this argument though because Apple devices don't play flash but thats not becasue it CAN'T its because Steve Jobs was boycotting Flash. Be that as it may, there are more Android phones than Windows phones, so I would say silverlight is loser :D

See how stupid your reasoning is...its based on the number of devices it can be deployed on (and can run on it)

Your argument that Silverlight is the trump card for Windows Phones might be blown out the water if you look at articles like this: http://www.i-programmer.info/profes...3323-windows-phone-7-sunk-by-silverlight.html

Before you say I'm clueless too, for the record, I'm a senior .NET software dev of 7 years. Actually I hope to see Flash die in the next couple of years with the advent of HTML5 and CSS3. As it is libraries like jQuery can do so much that Flash (and silverlight) can do on any browser on any platform.

Regarding XBox I think its brilliant. Beats any media center there is out there.
Related to XBOX, I've just finished building and XBMC system on a Linux platform (not sure how thats related to XBOX. Then again...Microsoft didn't develop XMBC...but I degress
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wow you had time to ype that out. you win the argument just cos I couldnt finish reading what you wrote.
 
MightyMuffinMan said:
wow you had time to ype that out. you win the argument just cos I couldnt finish reading what you wrote.
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Oh just noticed, you and I have been a MYBB members for just over 3 years , yet you have posted 1600 times and I have 390. I'm going for quality over quantity :D
 
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Joe Average said:
You are truly f#cking cluesless !!! xBox and Windows Phone are based on XAML which is the foundation of Silverlight. Where do you do your research ?
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Of all the many well-reasoned arguments that can be made against some of the points in Andrew's article, this isn't one of them.

VJB 449 said:
Windows as a gaming platform :D

Games for Windows Live :sick:
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QFT.
 
Joe Average said:
"Silverlight failed against Flash."

You are truly f#cking cluesless !!! xBox and Windows Phone are based on XAML which is the foundation of Silverlight. Where do you do your research ?
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Flash and Silverlight and not comparable either. Flash originated with animation in mind. Silverlight was built for rich web applications. If you really want to compare apples to apples, you should compare Silverlight and Flex (Flex is the rich-web application framework Adobe made to run on top of flash) or even Adobe AIR. In that case I'm not sure, but I would think that Flex and AIR don't have that big a user base. In either case, Adobe announced that Flash for mobile won't be developed anymore, so I would think it would be fair to say Silverlight triumphed over Flash.
 
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Playing windows games on Linux via wine. Getting better fps and response is a lot better !
 
If you want to throw birds around while waiting at an airport, get an iPad – but if you want to immerse yourself in the gritty sci-fi apocalypse of Gears of War, or play a role in the massive multiplayer game Star Wars: The Old Republic, then you need a Microsoft platform.
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Counter argument:
It has been said many times before that content sells the platform.
MS is very dependant on 3rd parties to provide the content and have dropped most of the game development studios they had.
Therefore, it would just take a bad run for the next xbox, or just one of the other 2 console giants to dominate the next gen and it would affect both xbox and PC gaming negatively - PC gaming is doing well now because of MS making it easy to create a game targeting both platforms.

If they were buying up lots of game dev studios at the moment I would be more inclined to agree with this article, instead they are pushing Kinect as a gaming device :sick:

VJB 449 said:
Windows as a gaming platform :D

Games for Windows Live :sick:
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Imagine if Games for Windows Live was the dominant game distribution service instead of Steam.
You would probably be saying: Windows as a gaming platform :sick: :cry: :mad:
 
Not sure I understand the point this article is making. If it's saying that Microsoft is going to become a key player in the console market, well then it's 5 years too late. We all know the Xbox 360 has done fine this generation, not much putting ones neck out when you make that call 7 years after launch.

The author sounds like he's making a list of other semi-failed MS technologies, to make the case that all that fail is going to result in gaming being the focus of MS.

On the server front, Windows Server and IIS share is dwarfed by that of Linux and Apache. Windows Azure has put up very little fight against Amazon EC2 or Google App Engine.
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Seriously. The entire Server and Tools division of Microsoft dismissed with one pithy statement. Just that division made Microsoft $6.6 billion in operating income for their FY2011. Xbox 360? $1.32 billion.

And the difference is this is the time in the console lifecycle when you make the most money. You've paid off all that R&D, you've reduced manufacturing costs thanks to two process shrinks, and now you're sitting back collecting licensing fees. Two years time and they've launched the Xbox 720, they're back to subsidizing hardware costs to sell the console for a reasonable cost, and now they're back to just breaking even for a couple of years (if they're lucky).
 
Wow. I think this guy gets all his Microsoft "facts" from slashdot comments. It's impressive how wrong he was with so many things. Not even worth going through the post and pointing them out.
 
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