Microsoft is rolling out a feature to replace passwords with more secure sign-in methods

backstreetboy said:
No Master Password

You no longer need to create, manage and remember a master password anymore. Use your fingerprint, Face ID or a pin code to access the MYKI app.
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Ok so, how many fingerprints do you leave behind you each day? It's really hard to get those, isn't it?

How many hi res photographs are available of your face on the internet? How hard is it to take a photo of your face?

If those become compromised, how do you change your fingerprints, or face?

Sending "codes" via sms and email is hardly secure.

So in comparison to a strong password that nobody else should ever know, which can be easily changed if it becomes compromised - how is this actually better security?
 
And perhaps the biggest issue - if someone uses your fingerprint or face to login, how are you going prove it wasn't you?

These measures protect them from you IMO. They don't improve your security, perhaps the reverse, but they do reduce their risk, the problem becomes yours to prove it wasn't you.

This is why banks have adopted biometrics as well IMO.
 
alanB said:
And perhaps the biggest issue - if someone uses your fingerprint or face to login, how are you going prove it wasn't you?

These measures protect them from you IMO. They don't improve your security, perhaps the reverse, but they do reduce their risk, the problem becomes yours to prove it wasn't you.

This is why banks have adopted biometrics as well IMO.
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I refuse to activate biometric access on my banking apps!
 
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alanB said:
And perhaps the biggest issue - if someone uses your fingerprint or face to login, how are you going prove it wasn't you?

These measures protect them from you IMO. They don't improve your security, perhaps the reverse, but they do reduce their risk, the problem becomes yours to prove it wasn't you.

This is why banks have adopted biometrics as well IMO.
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You’re more confused than @backstreetboy
 
ToxicBunny said:
I'm definitely in favour of this move tbh...

Passwords are just not good enough anymore. Yes the new methods bring different risks to the table, but overall they will provide a more secure experience for people.
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As long as it is a choice, you don't want your personal access being tied to a services provider. The services provider would 'own' your access.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
As long as it is a choice, you don't want your personal access being tied to a services provider. The services provider would 'own' your access.
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Well in this case they kind of already do own your access... But in principle I do agree that some choice would be good.
 
Ok and if your device is stolen and they used your fingerprint to login, by say just getting your fingerprint left behind on the your iphone start key, which if you look closely, it's always there?

How does that help?
 
alanB said:
Ok and if your device is stolen and they used your fingerprint to login, by say just getting your fingerprint left behind on the your iphone start key, which if you look closely, it's always there?

How does that help?
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Then you have bigger problems to worry about.
 
What the hell does that mean?

The point is that this "improvement" in security, actually doesn't seem to be.
 
DA-LION-619 said:
Then you have bigger problems to worry about.
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alanB said:
What the hell does that mean?

The point is that this "improvement" in security, actually doesn't seem to be.
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Your device was stolen, your fingerprint only works on that device.
You're concerned with someone using your device to access your MS account, forgetting they have access to everything on the device...

Just RTFM.
 
Apparently MS don't know about sim swap fraud

Doesn't just happen in SA
 
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