mini pci wireless cards

NathanCrow

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Hi i notice that on a pci mini wireless card u are able to plugin up to two antenna's is that correct so if i connect two 12dbi omni antenna's will this improve my broadcast signal 12dbi x 2 = 24dbi

Is that correct

Thanks in advance
 

Ivork

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No sorry it doen't work like that.
2 antenna's at 12dbi each will give you exactly that - two 12dbi antenna's.

Some notebooks have 2 connections possibly because they doing something fancy with horizontal & verical polarization around the side of the screen, but I'm not really sure either.
 

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2 antenna's at 12dbi each will give you exactly that - two 12dbi antenna's.
*cough.cringe.twitch*: antennas <- NO apostrophe! :p ..and 12dBi: dB is the unit being used.

That aside:
Some notebooks have 2 connections possibly because they doing something fancy with horizontal & verical polarization around the side of the screen, but I'm not really sure either.
It's not for polarisation, it's for signal handling, known as antenna diversity:
Antenna diversity, also known as space diversity, is any one of several wireless diversity schemes that use two or more antennas to improve the quality and reliability of a wireless link. Often, especially in urban and indoor environments, there is not a clear line-of-sight (LOS) between transmitter and receiver. Instead the signal is reflected along multiple paths before finally being received. Each of these bounces can introduce phase shifts, time delays, attenuations, and even distortions that can destructively interfere with one another at the aperture of the receiving antenna. Antenna diversity is especially effective at mitigating these multipath situations. This is because multiple antennas offer a receiver several observations of the same signal. Each antenna will experience a different interference environment. Thus, if one antenna is experiencing a deep fade, it is likely that another has a sufficient signal. Collectively such a system can provide a robust link. While this is primarily seen in receiving systems (diversity reception), the analog has also proven valuable for transmitting systems (transmit diversity) as well.
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Another common usage is in Wi-Fi networking gear and cordless telephones to compensate for multipath interference. The base station will switch reception to one of two antennas depending on which is currently receiving a stronger signal. For best results, the antennas are usually placed one wavelength apart. For microwave bands, where the wavelengths are under 100 cm, this can often be done with two antennas attached to the same hardware. For lower frequencies and longer wavelengths, the antennas must be several meters apart, making it much less reasonable.
 

Ivork

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Same idea.

One typical scenario is called polarization diversity. For example, most laptops have two small dipole antennas oriented differently because as you move around with the laptop one or the other antenna may "line up" better with the access point antenna polarization.
http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/UserDocs/AntennaDiversity

But if i read it right, you will only ever use 1 antenna at any given time - they won't both work at the same time like the OP wants to do.

Or am i wrong?
 
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Ivork

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Answer my own question ^^^ Can you use both at the same time? : Yes and No

What doesn't work ¶
Note that connecting antennas with different coverage areas doesn't really work. When reading about multiple antennas some people think they can connect one high-gain long range antenna for a long distance link and one omnidirectional antenna to serve for local connectivity to a single accesspoint radio. Or one high gain pointing in one direction and a second pointing in a different direction. While this can be made to work in principle, there are a number of problems. The first is that on an accesspoint beacons are only sent out one antenna, so stations on the other antenna are out of luck. The second problem is that when the AP transmits the stations on the other antenna don't hear the transmission and therefore don't do the collision avoidance properly. If you use RTS/CTS then also some stations don't get them at all. The bottom line is that diversity works well when one antenna is a few dB better than the other, which allows higher data rates and fewer packet losses. It does not work well if half the stations only hear one antenna and not at all the other.
 
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