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Absolute gold and ties into their response, timeline and all! ...
MTI opened a personal account profile in 2017 under the name of its current CEO, but we didn’t notice any suspicious activity with the trading volume and the deposits were small. Their activity picked up in May 2020; by this time, the account had been converted to corporate status. This was when the deposits and trades were made.
We want to make it clear that the information naming FXChoice as the broker where MTI executes its Forex operations is inaccurate. The same can be said about their claims of using artificial intelligence software. Before the account was blocked, they executed just a few trading operations, which were performed manually, large and incurred substantial losses.
And fxchoice said they never used a bot... My word someone should archive this video. This is a massive smoking gun!
He can't say that they were very dodgy etc especially after this video. Haha the internet is an archive and you better remember what you said where!
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Came across this unlisted video
This is the software they are using: https://www.metatrader4.com/en
and this seems to be the mirror (automation)
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and this seems to be the mirror (automation)
Algorithmic trading and trading robots in MetaTrader 4
Algorithmic trading (automated trading) is one of the strongest features of MetaTrader 4 allowing traders to develop, test and apply Expert Advisors and technical indicators.
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Do not try this at home...
LOL another video that has aged sooo beautifully 2 weeks ago. After the fxchoice blocking... That's why the video is missing. Not even leadership know what is happening...Came across this unlisted video
This is the software they are using: https://www.metatrader4.com/en
and this seems to be the mirror (automation)
Algorithmic trading and trading robots in MetaTrader 4
Algorithmic trading (automated trading) is one of the strongest features of MetaTrader 4 allowing traders to develop, test and apply Expert Advisors and technical indicators.
Ah its beautiful to watch this chaos unfold...
I know for a fact of ppl about 2 to 3 weeks ago when they were going their investigations and Johan showed "live" trading footage claiming fxchoice...
When will the ppl learn who come here. I'll go back to the post from earlier today and compare what the person said again what Johan himself said against this:
The previous broker (which you guys mention a lot) that MTI worked through, has a bad rating as an exchange and are being accused of being a risk to investors. So, LOGICALLY, MTI will stop using them. Just type the mentioned exchange name and look for "scam" etc, you will see lots of brokers warning you about them. I wont trust 10 000 bitcoin with them myself.....to be honest.
As I said Johan said they were one of the very very few good ones... Mmmm how ppl don't even realize what is out there...
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warrenpridgeon
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I've been wanting to look at building a trading bot, either Crypto or FX ... but I first need to learn FX Trading. lol
It will be risky to run a bot... and it's not going to make 1% per day CONSISTENTLY (over at least 200 days consecutively)
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Like I said, the way to do that would be to have lots of bots. Then they'd fairly consistently average out to something.
Probably not such consistency as MTI claims though.
IRS was notified about BTC Global early on but didn't seem to do any investigation. Mike Bolhuis may be a better bet, he did a lot of investigation into BTC Global and think provided a lot to the Hawks. Was also representing some of the victims so with the same perpetrators involved with MTI he may be interested in tying the two together.
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It seems everyone has the same idea and it already been built.
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The only question is which Expert Advisor was digitalchris using.
You can purchase or rent bots for metatrader 4 https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/49995
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Based on the video how many brokers have a PRO account?
en.myfxchoice.com
So basically, digitalchris has tried a few times and by all accounts fxchoice told him to get knotted. He has not been trading enough from what fxchoice has said to be making payments to members at the rate he has UNLESS IT IS A PONZI!!!
Pro Account - FXChoice
Try out our MT4/5 Pro account. Take full advantage of Non-Dealing-Desk technology, spreads from 0 pips and direct market liquidity provided by the largest
en.myfxchoice.com
So basically, digitalchris has tried a few times and by all accounts fxchoice told him to get knotted. He has not been trading enough from what fxchoice has said to be making payments to members at the rate he has UNLESS IT IS A PONZI!!!
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Ive build EA's for companies before to automate forex , metals and other stock. It wasn't meant for high frequency which is really the only near profitable even free ones you can download by simple googling.
The high frequency trading bots that can do upwards of thousands of trades sub second is not something anyone would sell, not for 10 BTC nevermind a Billion$ and those kinds of profitable bots cannot turn such consistent returns as MTI claim.
Fact of the matter is that Johann is too retarded to actually know someone who manage these HFTs and based on the small trading sample he showed as proof it is clearly not a HFT just based on the fact I could see on a single page trades stretching across more than a second and it was not even 20 trades at best per second and its not even legit statements.
Last but not least. Ive even run into FX trading training companies who required some EA to sell to their classroom. This MTI thing seems so much like a reverse leap from that scam industry however for the training scam industry at the very least they do teach some basic elements of trading even though they still sell the training via hype of students becoming rich once they finish the course using the same EA they would ask me to slap together.
The high frequency trading bots that can do upwards of thousands of trades sub second is not something anyone would sell, not for 10 BTC nevermind a Billion$ and those kinds of profitable bots cannot turn such consistent returns as MTI claim.
Fact of the matter is that Johann is too retarded to actually know someone who manage these HFTs and based on the small trading sample he showed as proof it is clearly not a HFT just based on the fact I could see on a single page trades stretching across more than a second and it was not even 20 trades at best per second and its not even legit statements.
Last but not least. Ive even run into FX trading training companies who required some EA to sell to their classroom. This MTI thing seems so much like a reverse leap from that scam industry however for the training scam industry at the very least they do teach some basic elements of trading even though they still sell the training via hype of students becoming rich once they finish the course using the same EA they would ask me to slap together.
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I am Def looking at trying this next year. But please start a new thread about this. This is a legit product from Binance.
This thread however is for MTI discussion go one thread back and post it. I will gladly join that discussion as it's something I'm seriously looking at doing.
Sound familiar?Based on the video how many brokers have a PRO account?
Pro Account - FXChoice
Try out our MT4/5 Pro account. Take full advantage of Non-Dealing-Desk technology, spreads from 0 pips and direct market liquidity provided by the largest
So basically, digitalchris has tried a few times and by all accounts fxchoice told him to get knotted. He has not been trading enough from what fxchoice has said to be making payments to members at the rate he has UNLESS IT IS A PONZI!!!
Maximum leverage: 1:200
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Based on the video how many brokers have a PRO account?
Pro Account - FXChoice
Try out our MT4/5 Pro account. Take full advantage of Non-Dealing-Desk technology, spreads from 0 pips and direct market liquidity provided by the largest
So basically, digitalchris has tried a few times and by all accounts fxchoice told him to get knotted. He has not been trading enough from what fxchoice has said to be making payments to members at the rate he has UNLESS IT IS A PONZI!!!
A PRO account is nothing special.
The fact they are "trading" upwards of 12000 BTC worth even if its 1000 BTC worth at any point they would skip these middleman brokers, they would go the direct route by leasing a spot right at the Foreign exchange in order to benefit from microsecond trades that would nearly eliminate any slippage you would experience dealing with middleware brokers. You would also be paying a set exchange fee and not commission per trade since you would have such a big corporate balance that you could buy yourself into this position.
All of these steps any legitimate trading company with their bankroll would take to increase the edge in trading but these dildos havn't got a clue what even half of these things are.
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We should put these suggestions to Johan.
And 99% of the general populous has no idea what most of what MTI says means... they just know that "oom frik put in R5000 last week and this week he withdrew R500... so it 'works' so take my money and make money babies for me!"
This is why these things "work" for the people who run them... And just because something has been running for X months or years doesn't mean it isn't a scam.
The Madoff scam ran for YEARS. And he even become a trusted person in the industry.
Madoff investment scandal - Wikipedia
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Exactly.
Afaik what most companies do to get the lowest response time from the actual foreign exchange is setup office nearby or as close as possible then install fiber channels directly from the office to the exchange for the shortest distance. You would have seen this in any trading related movie that tries to be accurate non fiction.
If you cant afford to do that, there is even office space you can rent out along with renting fiber channels access directly to the exchange at a cost that is cheaper spread out than installing all of this for your own company but not having full control over this fiber channel does pose a risk that if something goes wrong you need to wait for someone else to resolve it.
That is reality and with MTI bankroll I would have done exactly that yesterday already, the added edge you get compared to the other 99% layman using these middleman brokers could in theory if MTI had any actual magical bot turn a losing bot into a winning bot just by the sheer volume of scalps you can perform also assuming you have a capable bot which is entirely different.
All of these things still would not guarantee or quote any sort of "expected return" , their returns get averaged out after operating a year or more where the trading results noise is all but gone.
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Why that one? The trick is to find out which ones digitalchris has bought.
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No way he bought one and if he did and he is running it then all the BTC is long gone , lost to the trading netherworld.
The joke about MTI and where the name stem from is the concept of Mirrored trading in the forex world. So I think they are trying without even knowing how to explain it, make everyone think that they have a trading bot that receives its input from other profitable traders which would be the case for Mirrored trading.
No way this is at all reality but I am guessing if he had any ability to articulate it then this is probably what he would state.
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