Mitt Romney VS Ron Paul

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Normally used by people who think the bible is the infallible word of God... Im just applying it to this constitutional document :D

I would rather be part of the religion of Madison and Jefferson who wrote the constitution as opposed to the book written by the 12 Apostille, mainly because I can't amend the Bible.

But in all honesty, the constitution is the supreme law of the land, people can't just ignore it when they see fit to do (well that is how it is intended to be in any case).
 
I would rather be part of the religion of Madison and Jefferson who wrote the constitution as opposed to the book written by the 12 Apostille, mainly because I can't amend the Bible.
http://www.bcss.za.org/misquoting-jesus/ Watch that lecture in that video. You would be surpised how many time its being amended :D

But in all honesty, the constitution is the supreme law of the land, people can't just ignore it when they see fit to do (well that is how it is intended to be in any case).
I agree, but nothing is beyond improvement, including the constitution.
 
http://www.bcss.za.org/misquoting-jesus/ Watch that lecture in that video. You would be surpised how many time its being amended :D
I'm not really surprised, I thought Jefferson also wrote his own version of the bible, by taking out ridiculous beliefs such as virgin births.

I agree, but nothing is beyond improvement, including the constitution.

amend it first then pass the bill, don't do it the other way around.
 
http://www.bcss.za.org/misquoting-jesus/ Watch that lecture in that video. You would be surpised how many time its being amended :D


I agree, but nothing is beyond improvement, including the constitution.

Improving it, yes, that is a good thing. But the founding principle being it is a very limited federal goverment, with all powers not mentioned given to states and the people, with 3 tiers of government, with local and state being most powerful. And federal government being checked by the legislature and a judiciary.
It is an amazing system, and the principles behind it need no overhaul.
Healthcare is not the business of the federal government.
 
Improving it, yes, that is a good thing. But the founding principle being it is a very limited federal goverment, with all powers not mentioned given to states and the people, with 3 tiers of government, with local and state being most powerful. And federal government being checked by the legislature and a judiciary.
It is an amazing system, and the principles behind it need no overhaul.
Of course they do. Its part of the natural evolution of societies.

First we had villages, then we had towns, then we had cities, then we had city states, those city states combined to become larger city states and eventually countries, and now the countries are combining to become larger entities like the USA, EU, etc. Its the natural evolution of civilization whether people like it or not.
 
Of course they do. Its part of the natural evolution of societies.

First we had villages, then we had towns, then we had cities, then we had city states, those city states combined to become larger city states and eventually countries, and now the countries are combining to become larger entities like the USA, EU, etc. Its the natural evolution of civilization whether people like it or not.

Are you a fan of Jan Smuts's Holism?
 
Romney's attitude doesn't surprise me.

Support Universal Health Care: America's debt grows
Not support Universal Health Care: An ambulance ride alone will cost you R15000 excluding actual medical procedures which costs much more.
Not really. Cut out the military adventures, various wars on things and handouts to corrupt bankers and Wall Street investors and there's plenty of money.

I don't buy it. America's constitution itself is so outdated, the archaic way of amending it is self defeating and anemic. That country needs change.
A friend of mine paid R27000 after breaking his finger after playing basketball, in what way is this justifiable?
Overly expensive health care is a natural consequence of believing medicine is subject to normal competition with attending improvements in quality and reductions in price.

The same thing that should happen to the deer that cant run as fast as the rest of the heard...
I'm sorry if you don't like it, but that is Libertarianism.
We're not deer. It's really that simple. The libertarians have the right idea on certain fundamental freedoms, but they're completely off the range in many of their economic ideas. The only people who can continue to hold those economic beliefs are the ones who have money and those who are just bat**** crazy.
 
And similarly I think only those who have no money or are bat**** crazy can manage to hold onto pure socialist beliefs.
 
I dont know what you are talking about? :confused:

This

Holism (from ὂλος holos, a Greek word meaning all, whole, entire, total) is the idea that natural systems (physical, biological, chemical, social, economic, mental, linguistic, etc.) and their properties, should be viewed as wholes, not as collections of parts. This often includes the view that systems somehow function as wholes and that their functioning cannot be fully understood solely in terms of their component parts.[1][2]
The term holism was coined in 1926 by Jan Smuts. Reductionism is sometimes seen as the opposite of holism. Reductionism in science says that a complex system can be explained by reduction to its fundamental parts. For example, the processes of biology are reducible to chemistry and the laws of chemistry are explained by physics.
Social scientist and physician Nicholas A. Christakis explains that "for the last few centuries, the Cartesian project in science has been to break matter down into ever smaller bits, in the pursuit of understanding. And this works, to some extent...but putting things back together in order to understand them is harder, and typically comes later in the development of a scientist or in the development of science."[3
 
I dont know what you are talking about? :confused:

Jan Smuts wasn't exactly an Orthodox Christian, in fact most people believed he was an atheist, however in 1935 he published a theory called holism, basing most of his believes in the eco-system.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holism#In_science

He saw that we were all moving toward a whole, so he justified the commonwealth, the league of nations and the united nations on this believe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XExRNJtmxbQ

Your response to seeing the world in similar fashions reminded me of this theory.
 
Of course they do. Its part of the natural evolution of societies.

First we had villages, then we had towns, then we had cities, then we had city states, those city states combined to become larger city states and eventually countries, and now the countries are combining to become larger entities like the USA, EU, etc. Its the natural evolution of civilization whether people like it or not.

So why did the US and EU (both examples of "natural evolution of civilization") recommend the break up of the former Yugoslavia?
 
So why did the US and EU (both examples of "natural evolution of civilization") recommend the break up of the former Yugoslavia?
Conservatives in those countries are full of **** and are not ready to get over their hangups I guess. Change takes time.
 
Conservatives in those countries are full of **** and are not ready to get over their hangups I guess. Change takes time.

I personally would love to see the break up of the EU back into nationalist groups. Let the people govern themselves. Socialists always want to govern top down and control every aspect of society. Same with the US.
 
I personally would love to see the break up of the EU back into nationalist groups. Let the people govern themselves. Socialists always want to govern top down and control every aspect of society. Same with the US.
Not ganna happen.
 
Not ganna happen.

Don't count your chickens.

A Russian author predicted the break up of the States, can't remember his name. Probably happen in the next decade of so.

Look at what happened to the USSR, which was the first amalgamation of countries, eventually collapsed. Now the EU, also won't last.
 
I really hope that after South Carolina only Paul and Romney stays in the race.
 
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