Mkhize faces tender scandal

ForceFate said:
Lol. How do those policies promote corruption?
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You actually need me to spell out how BEE, AA, EE, NDR, RET, EWC and Cadre deployment cause corruption? Do you suffer from the ostrich syndrome with your head in the sand?
 
Cosmik Debris said:
You actually need me to spell out how BEE, AA, EE, NDR, RET, EWC and Cadre deployment cause corruption? Do you suffer from the ostrich syndrome with your head in the sand?
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Cosmik Debris said:
You actually need me to spell out how BEE, AA, EE, NDR, RET, EWC and Cadre deployment cause corruption? Do you suffer from the ostrich syndrome with your head in the sand?
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Do you ever debate without resorting to these lame tactics? Ever?
 
Unfortunately, Cosmik's comment is true. No good getting all huffy about it. If you think how a cadre has to manage when put into a job he has not the faintest idea of doing, then to hire an over-paid consultant is the only way. Trouble is, the same consultant might not be as pure as driven snow, and same cadre has no means of knowing
 
chrisc said:
Unfortunately, Cosmik's comment is true. No good getting all huffy about it. If you think how a cadre has to manage when put into a job he has not the faintest idea of doing, then to hire an over-paid consultant is the only way. Trouble is, the same consultant might not be as pure as driven snow, and same cadre has no means of knowing
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So there is no corruption in countries without BEE, AA, EE, NDR, RET, EWC?
 
chrisc said:
Unfortunately, Cosmik's comment is true. No good getting all huffy about it. If you think how a cadre has to manage when put into a job he has not the faintest idea of doing, then to hire an over-paid consultant is the only way. Trouble is, the same consultant might not be as pure as driven snow, and same cadre has no means of knowing
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Political heads don't do day-to-day management really. Administration is largely in the hands of DG and below.
 
ForceFate said:
Political heads don't do day-to-day management really. Administration is largely in the hands of DG and below.
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Are the political heads accountable under the Public Finance Management Act?

Why is nobody in jail yet?
 
Cosmik Debris said:
Are the political heads accountable under the Public Finance Management Act?

Why is nobody in jail yet?
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I was just pointing out they're not involved in day-to-day administration. Don't twist my words and make it look like I'm defending Mkhize.
 
Cosmik Debris said:
What a spin. Where does SA stand on the world corruption index?
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57 out of 198 countries. Although corruption is defined differently in different countries. The lobbying system in the US, for example, could be considered corruption in many parts of the rest of the world, but is legal in the US so isn't counted
 
ForceFate said:
I was just pointing out they're not involved in day-to-day administration. Don't twist my words and make it look like I'm defending Mkhize.
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Except they are. Including deciding on who exactly gets all those tenders.

So yeah stop defending the indefensible ;)
 
MightyQuin said:
And out come the Whataboutism...like clockwork.
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It's not whataboutism - it's pointing out that corruption happens due to causes other than the one's listed. If BEE was the cause of corruption then you would expect there would be no corruption in places that don't have BEE. Since we know corruption exists in the absence of BEE we can logically deduce that BEE is not the cause of corruption. It's capitalism and human greed that is the cause of corruption
 
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