MMM Global - pyramid scheme

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When going through SA web-site rankings on SimilarWeb (http://www.similarweb.com/country/south_africa), I noticed http://rsa-mmm.org/ as a site I have never seen before. A quick clickthrough shows that it is a typical pyramid scheme which seems to be quite active on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/MMMGlobal.SouthAfrica) with plenty of gullible people around.

When I came across this update (http://rsa-mmm.org/news/mmm_south_africa_weekly_news_from_sergey_mavrodi_08_07_2015-3764.html) and read the name "Sergey Mavrodi" the lights went on, as he is a wanted russian criminal who has been running Ponzi-schemes for over a decade.

Frustrating is that I reported his Youtube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQwK0oGCWsv7Z-lI3aCP_KA) and Google came back with "We are not going to take action - channel looks fine" and the same sentiment from Facebook.

When doing some more research last night, there seems to be a large number of those ponzi-schemes going on in SA. Some masquerading as "stokvel" others as "TFSA investment clubs" etc - and all having the characteristics of a pyramid scheme and hosting events all over the country with eager participants trying to avoid the often quoted "financial apocalypse".

If you happen to know a russian speaker, out of interest could you possible ask if the comments in the video actually mean what the transcript says?
 
Makes for an interesting read - http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/NC20Ag01.html

His company once raked in millions of dollars a day. He owned enough cash to pack several rooms full with banknotes. He was elected to the Russian State Duma and even attempted a run for president.

Today, Sergei Mavrodi, the man behind the infamous MMM financial pyramid that cheated millions of Russians out of their savings in the 1990s, is broke and in prison for non-payment of a 1,000-rouble ($33) fine.

A Moscow court jailed him for five days on March 14 after he failed to pay the fine, slapped on him for an unspecified administrative offense. A court representative said he faced 10



identical charges.

For many, the jailing of a figure seen as Russia's biggest con man marks just another tumble in his spectacular fall from grace. But several years on the run and a four-and-a-half year stint in prison have not tamed Mavrodi.

'The system must be destroyed'
On the contrary, the trained mathematician last year launched a new pyramid scheme, MMM-2011, which he claims will eventually bring down the entire global financial system.

"My goal is a financial apocalypse, a destruction of the global financial system," he told RFE/RL just hours before his March 14 arrest. "I consider the current financial system unfair; it's not fair that some people own billions while others have nothing. The system must be destroyed and something else must be built in its place. That's precisely what I'm working on."

The principle behind MMM-2011 is the same as in any Ponzi scheme - earlier investors receive their profits from subsequent investors. Mavrodi promises fantastic returns of 20% to 75% a month, as well as lotteries and bonuses for investors.

What sets this new scheme apart is that unlike the original MMM, which was presented as a financial institution with offices selling vouchers bearing Mavrodi's picture, the new version is entirely Internet-based. Investors have their money converted into a virtual currency called the "mavro dollar" that is supposed to increase in value.

Mavrodi describes MMM-2011 as a "financial social network" in which citizens give each other money.

Devout followers
The scheme is also more up-front than its predecessor - the website warns investors of the risks, and its founder openly admits it is a pyramid scheme.

Mavrodi says his new brainchild already has 20 million members, a claim that is impossible to verify due to the scheme's opacity. One thing is for sure: his charisma and his efforts to portray himself as a modern-era Robin Hood are earning him devout followers.

Aleksei Muratov, a former legislator in the Russian city of Kursk, abandoned his political career to devote himself exclusively to promoting MMM-2011. He firmly believes in Mavrodi's stated mission to bring about a new financial era.

"He isn't doing it for money," Muratov says. "I believe that his intentions are noble. Will he succeed? Considering the speed with which MMM-2011 is growing, I think I will see this new life. I think it will happen soon. Even if I go bust, I will have invested my money in his project, I will have supported him as a strong personality."

Authorities reluctant to act
So far, MMM-2011 has been able to operate largely unhindered, largely because Ponzi schemes and financial pyramids are legal under Russian law. And despite numerous pledges to crack down on the pyramid after its creation in January 2011, federal authorities appear reluctant to take action.

Russia's financial ombudsman, Pavel Medvedev, is one exception. He has written to the prosecutor-general's Office but he claims prosecutors are in no rush to look into Mavrodi's activities.

"The prosecutor-general told me that measures will be taken if violations are committed," he said. "Why aren't prosecutors acting against him? Because the Prosecutor-General's Office is not interested, it has a life of its own.

"If a big, big boss gives orders then it will act, otherwise it won't bother. It will take the trouble if there's a serious disaster, of course, if someone is murdered. That's its sensitivity threshold."

Medvedev doesn't believe MMM-2011 has millions of members. If this were the case, he says, he would long have been flooded with complaints from defrauded investors. In his opinion, MMM-2011 probably operates on a very modest scale.

"MMM no longer exists," he says. "What we have here is a wretched person, Mavrodi, who has always been very active. Even in Soviet times he traded jeans, which was a very lucrative business.

"Now he is idle, he must pay the court and defrauded citizens fantastic amounts of money, which he doesn't have, so he can't start any business. I think he's bluffing."

Confident of success
Mavrodi, however, is confident of his success and is now seeking to export MMM-2011 to Western Europe, Canada, and Latin America. His website is currently available in 17 languages, including English, French, Spanish, Czech, Greek, Turkish, Swedish, and Hebrew. It also lists phone numbers of representatives in a dozen countries.

Mavrodi says he is about to launch a massive advertising campaign in Europe. His agents have already been spotted in London distributing Russian-language leaflets promoting MMM-2011. His foray into the West, however, may prove tricky.

Russia's porous legislation and the population's inexperience with capitalism at the time enabled MMM to defraud millions of Russians in the early 1990s. Western citizens, well-seasoned in the principles of a market economy, may prove tougher to persuade. Western laws could also be an obstacle.

MMM-2011's biggest prospective foreign market, the European Union, bans all types of financial pyramids on its territory. Running such a scheme is punishable by a fine, a ban, and in some countries with a prison term.

According to Mavrodi, that's a risk he's willing to take.

"Absolutely nothing will stop me - not threats, not intimidation, regardless of whom they come from, even from the very top," he says.

"Of course I don't want to go to jail. But I'm doing what I have to do, and what will be will be."
 
John Robbie on 702 is quite interested in these schemes, and the ones posing as stokvels lately. He helped to get one shut down after listeners complained about its dodgy dealings, and he gave the "CEO" right of reply. She was soo terrible and unprepared to respond to straightforward questions about the financial model of the so called stokvel.

Maybe alert John & EyeWitness News on Twitter about the info you've found. Their producers are really on the ball.
 
John Robbie on 702 is quite interested in these schemes, and the ones posing as stokvels lately. He helped to get one shut down after listeners complained about its dodgy dealings, and he gave the "CEO" right of reply. She was soo terrible and unprepared to respond to straightforward questions about the financial model of the so called stokvel.

Maybe alert John & EyeWitness News on Twitter about the info you've found. Their producers are really on the ball.

The thought of trying to explain to John Robbie what an online pyramid scheme is, is really beyond my level of patience :whistle: - someone else can "brief" our established journalists.
 
Moneyweb article

http://www.moneyweb.co.za/in-depth/investigations/convicted-russian-fraudster-launches-financial-scheme-in-sa/

Sergei Mavrodi, a convicted Russian criminal who served jail time for fraud, appears to be successfully running the same pyramid scheme that swindled thousands of Russians out of their hard-earned rubles here in South Africa.
According to The Moscow Times, Mavrodi was found guilty in 2007 of defrauding 10 000 investors out of 110 million rubles, worth some $4.3 million at the time.

Where is the FSB?
 

As the article posted earlier mentioned, Pyramid Schemes are legal in Russia, so they only time the FSB will get involved is when it gets really serious (millions of people defrauded or someone gets killed). So he was caught in 2007, but obviously now all he has to do is tell everyone that he IS running a pyramid scheme and the risks you take for putting your money in it (which is exactly what he is doing now) ....

So i guess if after all the warnings you STILL choose to throw your money away, then there's nothing the FSB can do until pyramid schemes are deemed illegal. Unfortunately you can see the uneducated masses still don't understand what a pyramid scheme is, hence him getting away with it in countries like India and China (and here), even with all the disclaimers and warnings .

Now of course, i am not sure what the laws are in SA , but something tells me, it will be down to the SA Authorities to stop it if it's considered illegal, not the FSB.
 
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All deposit taking financial institutions should be registered with the FSB. That is the law. That is why the ads always say. A registered service provider. My suspicion is that he is not registered and therefore operating illegally in SA in anyway

But I agree. The uneducated masses and the desperate will still invest their money.
 
A friend clicked a link on Facebook, and now every time she clicks a link on Facebook on her iPad, it takes her to rsa-mmm.org, which seems to be part of this scheme. Anyone have a clue how to stop that from happening?
 
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Clear the cache in the browser or in the app, if it's happening in the Facebook app.
 
I just earned 30% on my "Investment" in 30 days. No jokes.
I did this with money I could afford to loose, just cashed today. The last time I checked, stokvels were legal in SA.

Hahaha.

And you'll probably lose all 130% in the next deal.

Fools and their money.
 
What exactly does it mean to have money you can afford to lose?

Probably using somebody else's money.

Makes me think of our government and us taxpayers.
 
I just earned 30% on my "Investment" in 30 days. No jokes.
I did this with money I could afford to loose, just cashed today. The last time I checked, stokvels were legal in SA.

GTFO human scum trying to steal innocent people's money
 
This always reminds me of the idiots at school that would do the chocolate pyramid scheme. As soon as they told me what it was about I asked where does it stop? Surely someone is going to lose out and not get chocolates. People just couldn't fathom. Idiots everywhere :erm::whistle:
 
Got a shock today here at work when I mentioned mmm scheme.
Seems like alot of people are members in secret...but when in public they are very vocal against it
 
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