(More) Bad signs for Blu-ray

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In this month's issue of Wired magazine, Sony and Microsoft splurged on a full-page insert that includes a Blu-ray DVD. The disc is the "director's cut" of Coma, a seven-part noir-esque crime thriller. On the back of the insert, there's a plug for Vista and the Sony Vaio. I don't know how much this is costing Sony and its partners, but it can't be cheap -- Wired's paid circulation is 706,494, and this press release indicates that other magazines may be involved.

Have Sony and its Blu-ray backers come to this -- using a marketing tactic reminiscent of 90s-style software and music giveaways in an attempt to boost Blu-ray? Remember, this was a technology that people were supposed to rush out and buy after Blu-ray won the HD format battle with HD-DVD. Sony president Ryoji Chubachi even expressed a goal back in April that Blu-ray would grow to a global market share of 50% in 2008. There's already strong evidence that Blu-ray's market share is declining, at least in the U.S., according to recent data from Nielsen VideoScan published on EngadgetHD.

In The Industry Standard's prediction market, there's a prediction that Blu-ray's market share will not break 50% by the end of this year. That's a no-brainer. Our readers are largely behind this prediction, with community consensus currently standing at 82%. Another prediction that Blu-ray player prices would drop below $250 by Thanksgiving was judged three months early after one model hit $249.47 (with a rebate). How low can prices go for the players? This morning, another reader pointed us to news that models by Sony and Samsung are selling for less than $200, including shipping. The Engadget author calls the Sony BDP-S300 deal "unquestionably delectable." Sony better hope that mainstream consumers feel the same way, or the company risks another weak Christmas for Blu-ray this year -- and losing out in an even bigger way when consumers begin to turn to the Internet for their HD content.
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So much for the PS3's trump card :rolleyes:
 
As a point of interest, i wonder what format the 720 will use for its games? DVD, Blu-Ray or some new format?
 
Kerrrang! said:
As a point of interest, i wonder what format the 720 will use for its games? DVD, Blu-Ray or some new format?
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I'd be completely unsurprised if it is Blu-Ray of a sort, but I suspect more likely one of the newer 3+ layer variants.

Either way I suspect downloadable full games will integral to both the "720" and the PS4.
 
Kerrrang! said:
As a point of interest, i wonder what format the 720 will use for its games? DVD, Blu-Ray or some new format?
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Well... Microsoft always say that there compression tools are getting better
and better,so more than likely they will be using that magnetic strip you find
at the back of you standard atm debit card as there next format for storage, that should be sufficient enough.

I mean more space does not mean better games right.
 
CHURCHILL said:
Well... Microsoft always say that there compression tools are getting better
and better,so more than likely they will be using that magnetic strip you find
at the back of you standard atm debit card as there next format for storage, that should be sufficient enough.

I mean more space does not mean better games right.
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Lol:D
Yeah, should it be Blu-Ray, wonder if the 360 guys will all suddenly jump on the BR bandwagon. Personally, i didnt buy my PS3 because it had BR, that was just a "nice to have".

I like my disks, or to have a game come on some kind of format. If they want to push full games as DLC, i hope Seacom is fully functional and veeeeery cheap, otherwise it'll just work out way more expensive. Or at least always give the option to purchase the disc-based version vs to DL the whole 50 Gigs (or however big the next-next-gen games will be) of it.
 
Kerrrang! said:
I like my disks, or to have a game come on some kind of format. If they want to push full games as DLC, i hope Seacom is fully functional and veeeeery cheap, otherwise it'll just work out way more expensive. Or at least always give the option to purchase the disc-based version vs to DL the whole 50 Gigs (or however big the next-next-gen games will be) of it.
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Another evil genius scheme ;) - Perhaps part of Microsofts copy to HD strategy. Allow users to copy the entire game to their harddrive then pay the equivalent of a second hand copy to "unlock" it without the disc. In other words, use the actual media to distribute the DL'ed copied and just pay for the license over Live!
 
Is it Friday already?

The article makes some strange comments... since when are lower priced players a bad thing for a format? (There seemed to be the opposite argument when HD-DVD was around) Is BD going to have 50% of global video disk sales in 2008? No frikkin way! Does that mean that the format is failing? No. How many hundreds of millions of DVDs are sold annually? If BD gets 25% of that market it is still very viable.
 
Kage said:
Ummm...I did, that is why I am commenting on it.
The 2yr old GOW has better textures...
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Your posts are usually very informative and make a clear and concise point.
But the one above? You must be smoking something!!!
 
@udiS3 said:
Your posts are usually very informative and make a clear and concise point.
But the one above? You must be smoking something!!!
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Umm...i thought that the post was very concise and clear. ;)

I posted my thoughts on MGS4 after I played (somewhere on this forum), there is GRAPHICALLY no reason why the game could not have been done for the 360.
There is nothing special about the enemy AI, enemies are hardcore in Gears.
The videos are not that spectacular, I have seen better videos in Lost Odyssey.

Lost odyssey sported some of the best textures I have seen in a looooong time and the same can be said for SC4, the clothing and skin textures are amamzing.
 
Achmat_Samsodien said:
Typical X-bot bias!
Sorry Kage but you have something against the game cause it's on PS3.
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No not at all...I have nothing against the PS3. :rolleyes:
Just because the game is on your console of choice and is made by a legend (kojima) and the game is based on a classic series of games DOES NOT make it faultless or perfect.
 
Kage said:
No not at all...I have nothing against the PS3. :rolleyes:
Just because the game is on your console of choice and is made by a legend (kojima) and the game is based on a classic series of games DOES NOT make it faultless or perfect.
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Ironic considering the conversation underway in the halo thread ;)
 
doobiwan said:
Ironic considering the conversation underway in the halo thread ;)
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All im saying is that I would play Gears any day over Halo...
I cant see why Halo was so hyped up. Maybe you right I need to play 1 & 2 to get some perspective. Or try out the multiplayer. But I just feel Id rather jam some COD4 or Gears.
 
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