More powerful batteries from Panasonic

haha... talk about reading my mind. Last night I was laying in bed wondering where all these fancy new technologies are that we have been reading about for years. Longer life batteries have been announced since 2000, but there has not been much change in that field in a decade... in fact my old Siemens phones all had a longer battery life than anything I have owned in the last decade.

And what about these new high density storage discs that were announced since 2005? We haven't seen neither hide nor hair of them.

I bet I can bump ten articles on this board alone announcing longer battery life and higher density storage! :p
 
Agree 100%. I always get my hopes up about new technology - but the ones I read about in articles like this never seem to become a reality. 20-30% more powerful Li-ion batteries by 2013 now? Come on, really, by 2013 the way technology is we'll already have a new type of battery or 50% stronger batteries produced by another manufacturer or something. They predict that these 20-30% more powerful batteries will start being produced in 2013 -- what about the advancements in technology until then? What if they make another breakthrough that allows 60% more battery efficiency? what happens to that plan then? Why even WAIT until 2013 to start production? Surely the demand for that type of battery is HUGE now when there's no competition? :rolleyes::confused::wtf:
 
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Matshu_hita is the leading tech innovator and developer in Japan. Let's hope these batteries make it quick into their laptops.
 
So will america invade countries with lithium, and isn't lithium a limited resource?
 
Are battery powered cars really more environmentally freindly than conventional ones?
 
My main issue with the electric cars is that you still need to generate electricity to charge them - hello messy coal power. Also what is going to happen to these batteries after 3 years when they need to be replaced? Then will the electricity grids be able to handle millions of electricity guzzlers being plugged in each night?
 
Good points madman88 and pkid.

Maybe one of the reasons some technologies are delayed is because the inventors/developers/who ever are working on an annuity income scheme for their devices. Like everything else you will own the battery or device but pay someone to use it and even where and how you use it. You may also have to pay when you eventually dispose of your device. More modern motor cars are well on their way with this scheme. Cell phones and decoders got it right from the begining. M$ is working very hard towards it.

Maybe the word that would be applicable in this subposition is CONTROL.

Governments would love it..........
 
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electric cars are better because you can generate electricity from alternative fuel sources and aren't forced to use fossil fuels. and it's still better to use electricity generated from coal using the existing power grid than to maintain an inefficient petrochemical industry.
 
Razza said:
So will america invade countries with lithium, and isn't lithium a limited resource?
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Yeah its limited. Comes from somewhere in south america. Forgot where exactly.

Of the materials needed for high tech stuff we'll run out of other things first. Especially the stuff needed for LCD screens. Cadium I think.
 
Madman88 said:
Are battery powered cars really more environmentally freindly than conventional ones?
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I read in one of the "Mini" magazines that a electrical car is more dirty in regards with CO2 emissions if it is used in a country that generates most of its power via coal when compared to a normal petrol car. This will change though as more countries start switching over to greener power generation (if this will happen remains to be seen) :confused:
 
Garyvdh said:
haha... talk about reading my mind. Last night I was laying in bed wondering where all these fancy new technologies are that we have been reading about for years. Longer life batteries have been announced since 2000, but there has not been much change in that field in a decade... in fact my old Siemens phones all had a longer battery life than anything I have owned in the last decade.

And what about these new high density storage discs that were announced since 2005? We haven't seen neither hide nor hair of them.

I bet I can bump ten articles on this board alone announcing longer battery life and higher density storage! :p
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Its hardly the case that batteries have not gotten any better over the years, just that electronic devices and phones' power requirements have sky Rocketed since the days of your little Siemens :p

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Agree 100%. I always get my hopes up about new technology - but the ones I read about in articles like this never seem to become a reality. 20-30% more powerful Li-ion batteries by 2013 now? Come on, really, by 2013 the way technology is we'll already have a new type of battery or 50% stronger batteries produced by another manufacturer or something. They predict that these 20-30% more powerful batteries will start being produced in 2013 -- what about the advancements in technology until then? What if they make another breakthrough that allows 60% more battery efficiency? what happens to that plan then? Why even WAIT until 2013 to start production? Surely the demand for that type of battery is HUGE now when there's no competition? :rolleyes::confused::wtf:
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Sorry but the way you go on sounds like you could do better?
Whether you actually have any clue what kind of research and manufacturing process they go through to develop new technology is questionable.

I doubt they are only starting production at end of 2012 because they feel like it.There are many factors at work here that affect development and research that we can't even fathom,so asking
"What if they make another breakthrough that allows 60% more battery efficiency?"
is a little silly don't you think ?
This IS the advancement in technology you speak of.
 
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Sorry but the way you go on sounds like you could do better?
Whether you actually have any clue what kind of research and manufacturing process they go through to develop new technology is questionable.

I doubt they are only starting production at end of 2012 because they feel like it.There are many factors at work here that affect development and research that we can't even fathom,so asking
"What if they make another breakthrough that allows 60% more battery efficiency?"
is a little silly don't you think ?
This IS the advancement in technology you speak of.
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As far as I'm concerned, unless there is a contract signed for them to start production in 2012/13, to announce it otherwise in the news as if IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN LIKE THAT when technology is so dynamic and spontaneously changing is absurd. Like i say, chances are by 2013 they'll have already researched/discovered how to prolong Li-ion battery life by another 50%, or discovered some other far more efficient battery chemical. Why would they then go ahead mass producing the older technology batteries that are only 20% more efficient? Excuse me if I'm being ignorant - I don't know the industry, but I think my argument makes reasonable sense anyway.
 
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Yeah its limited. Comes from somewhere in south america. Forgot where exactly.

Of the materials needed for high tech stuff we'll run out of other things first. Especially the stuff needed for LCD screens. Cadium I think.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium
The largest reserve base of lithium is in the Salar de Uyuni area of Bolivia, which has 5.4 million tons. According to the US Geological Survey, the production and reserves of lithium in metric tons are as follows[32][39]:
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or maybe Iran will do the invading:

The transmutation of lithium atoms to tritium was the first man-made form of a nuclear fusion reaction, and lithium deuteride serves as a fusion fuel in staged thermonuclear weapons.
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Yea to be honest I would have thought they could do better developing new batteries, but these are the industry leaders we are talking about and the fact that batteries have not changed much in the last 10 years must mean that it is becoming increasingly difficult to make them better.
 
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