More than 1 in 3 men rape - study

[Picard]

Where in Johannesburg do you find this savage community?

University of Jo'burg male student residences

 

[shakenbake]

You just had the anti race card pulled on you, very commonly used in these parts

Is that something like the "you're pulling the race card" card that racists often use when they're being racist ?

 

[R13...]

Is that something like the "you're pulling the race card" card that racist often use when they're being racist ?

Nail on the head!

 

[shakenbake]

 

[Ninja'd]

You know what pisses me off about this article?

They use the term "1 in x amount" and then use percentages afterwards Please use the same terms with which you started the article. Does "1 in 3 men rape" sound scarier than 33% of men rape?

 

[BBSA]

Is that something like the "you're pulling the race card" card that racists often use when they're being racist ?

Wrong Rooster, the race card will always be used by those who have no logical arguments like the ANCYL. It is their first and last resort to shut the opposition up as they think that the white folk are sensitive to being called a racist.

 

[Polymathic]

I think if we make a list of things that seriously affected the world in a terrible way, rape would struggle to make the top 20. Sexual harassment would not make the top 1000. Yet we're lead to believe these are the primary issues of the day. I mean REAL non consensual rape by the way. To me if you enjoyed it at the time or consented to it, no matter what state you were in, provided you got yourself into that state, it's not rape.

Consider war, genocide, racism, mental illness, physical impairment, poverty, various cancers, lack of education, , lack of healthcare , aids, murder, drugs, malaria, child abuse etc. I can't be bothered to spend my time worrying about rape. Something from my experience that is extremely unappealing to all the men I know.

I don't know what world you living in, rape is right up there with child abuse and alot of times these two problems are interconnected. Rape in many rural areas is used to "put women in their place".

 

[Esea]

So that means if a woman go's on 3 dates whit 3 differant men, one of them would have raped her ? Wait what ????

 

[Ninja'd]

So that means if a woman go's on 3 dates whit 3 differant men, one of them would have raped her ? Wait what ????

What if you have 3 brothers?

 

[shakenbake]

I don't know what world you living in, rape is right up there with child abuse and alot of times these two problems are interconnected. Rape in many rural areas is used to "put women in their place".

No. Not to me. They cried wolf too often. I just don't believe them anymore. You see the problem ?

I wish I could go back to university and sit in sociology class again and fight back. When I think about all this male gaze rubbish mythology etc it is an atrocity to teach teenagers. Flat out propaganda intended to divide people into a gender war nobody really wants or needs.

1 in 3 ? Any man anywhere can tell you that's rubbish and that their definition of rape is absurd. By the same definition 1 in 3 women rapes a man. I have been raped hundreds of times in fact. Where is that headline ?

And you're demonising people in rural areas. I don 't know where you picked up this stompie about men commonly raping women in rural areas. It's total taboo ! I'd like to see you get away with raping a mans wife, and certainly most woman by the time they are 18 are married in rural areas. The way you talk you'd think he'd be cheering you on. This country thrives on everyone being ignorant and buffooning the culture of everyone else.

 

[BBSA]

No. Not to me. They cried wolf too often. I just don't believe them anymore. You see the problem ?

1 in 3 ? Any man anywhere can tell you that's rubbish and that their definition of rape is absurd. By the same definition 1 in 3 women rapes a man. Where is that headline ?

Rooster, Rape is a big problem in our country, why do you try to minimise it?

 

[Nothxkbi]

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/More-than-1-in-3-men-rape-study-20101126



:wtf:

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9364/gaykn.jpg :erm:

 

[shakenbake]

I emailed the author of another study many times to ask her for her definition of rape. I never received a response. But the fact that so many men admitted to it is a dead give away that they thought they were admitting to something mostly socially acceptable such as having CONSENTING intercourse with someone while drunk, rather that forcing themselves on anyone. I can believe rape is a problem but is it a problem so dire that men willingly admit to it ?We might be rapists, but wow we show real integrity in the honesty department ? What dirt ! I'm sick of having myself and my dignity passed through the dirt for just being a man. I'm a human being and my life has value god dammit ! I'm mad as hell and I'm just not going to take this anymore !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMBZDwf9dok&feature=fvst

He he.

 

[shakenbake]

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9364/gaykn.jpg :erm:

lol

 

[STS]

you say rape, i say surprise sex

 

[grayston]

What a stupid test. How can you do a study of just 487 people and justify it? Other variables must be considered! 487 people do not represent the millions living in Gauteng! Think about it, maybe if they did a study of at least 487,000 people in that area it would make sense. This does not.

I am telling you, this is a study done and funded by the Europe/America/Austrilia's so that people do not come to Africa, especially SA because it's economy in general is steady and growing. They don't want people from the US/Euro to migrate here so they are throwing these f'd up studies.

Exactly. 487 men can hardly give an accurate assessment. Pretty stupid.

Brilliant sample on which to reach such an earth-shattering assumption... 487 out of a possible 25 000 000 (assuming a 50/50 male/female split) = 0.002%

This has the same twang to it as that idiotic Charlize Theron ad from a couple of years ago. I've got 4 or 5 close male friends, none of whom would dare touch a woman uninvited, let alone resort to rape. That in itself invalidates the entire 'study'.

Sensationalism derived from non-representative stats FTL. Problems do not get addressed by overstating them to the point of being ludicrous.

What a load of b@lls%^t! There is no way this is accurate. If 1 in 3 were rapists then like 1 in 1000 women would not have been raped. While I appreciate we have a problem in this country stats like this do nothing to help all they do is create animosity in the men who don't and so are counter productive.

http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm#one

For a population of 4,000,000, a confidence level of 95% and a confidence 'interval' of 4, 600 people would have to be interviewed for an accurate result.

It is important that they are drawn from the breadth of society as well.

 

[shakenbake]

you say rape, i say surprise sex

Lol , it's terrible to joke. But I suppose they have it coming. I mean somewhere in the 70's women realized to shut them up we'd let them get away with certain "exaggerations" about the state of femininity. We'd take it on the chin and admit we did enjoy certain privileged. We probably reached equality 20 years ago and since then they've kept pushing. Not for equal rights, but for special rights. The right to be spoken to in a special way, treated in a special way, an easier rise to the top in work, the rights to always be princesses and at the same time always be seen as underprivileged. Never in history has there been so much insatiable lust for totalitarian power than the feminists of the 20th and 21st century have shown.

 

[shakenbake]

http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm#one

For a population of 4,000,000, a confidence level of 95% and a confidence 'interval' of 4, 600 people would have to be interviewed for an accurate result.

It is important that they are drawn from the breadth of society as well.

You're missing the most important aspect of this. The definition of rape was obviously incredibly flawed and produced sensationalist results. Just like "domestic abuse" figures. Ignoring that fact that men are far more likely to experience physical and emotional domestic abuse than women, the TV adverts lead you to believe domestic abuse is all men returning home drunk to beat their wives to an inch of their lives. In reality the stats are made of of offences are timid as "shouting at your wife in an argument" or criticizing her. Yet these stats are all lumped in and manipulatory presented to represent something else far more sinister. It's all histrionic and I have no time for it. There are real problems in the world that need out attention more than pampered , privileged western women and their fashion hubris.

 

[grayston]

You're missing the most important aspect of this. The definition of rape was obviously incredibly flawed and produced sensationalist results. Just like "domestic abuse" figures. Ignoring that fact that men are far more likely to experience physical and emotional domestic abuse than women, the TV adverts lead you to believe domestic abuse is all men returning home drunk to beat their wives to an inch of their lives. In reality the stats are made of of offences are timid as "shouting at your wife in an argument" or criticizing her. Yet these stats are all lumped in and manipulatory presented to represent something else far more sinister. It's all histrionic and I have no time for it. There are real problems in the world that need out attention more than pampered , privileged western women and their fashion hubris.

You are concerned about two things:

1. You are worried people might think there's a 33% chance that YOU are a rapist. This is completely false and the slightest knowledge of statistical theory will explain this to you.
2. You think that publication of this sort of information ignores all other cases of abuse.

You also rather distastefully dismiss all allegations of rape as false because they are made by 'pampered, privileged western women' just looking to make a scene.

I am sure that the rape problem in South Africa is just something that the media created after talking to a couple of bored housewives in Sandton...

 

[shakenbake]

You are concerned about two things:

1. You are worried people might think there's a 33% chance that YOU are a rapist. This is completely false and the slightest knowledge of statistical theory will explain this to you.
2. You think that publication of this sort of information ignores all other cases of abuse.

You also rather distastefully dismiss all allegations of rape as false because they are made by 'pampered, privileged western women' just looking to make a scene.

I am sure that the rape problem in South Africa is just something that the media created after talking to a couple of bored housewives in Sandton...

You sure took the ball and ran with it. Just in some weird direction that can't even be described in three dimensional space time terms. Or to put it another way, WTF ?

I'm not saying in the slightest all allegations of rapes are false. I'm saying that these types of studies are clearly manipulative and flawed and it has the effect of making people like me who document the radical feminist agenda to be very , very skeptical of them. To the extent that I find anything a feminists tells me very difficult to take seriously. Without such bogus claims such as 1 in 3 men are rapists, I would certainly take the issue more seriously. This damages the the credibility of the cause and is harmful to women. You witnessed yourself the backlash here.

In "The prince" Machiavelli writes about a general who abused his soldiers and doesn't appreciate their sacrifices. He underpays them , puts them in danger , scorns them etc. What happens ? Of course they all turn on him. This is what women will soon find to be their case if they continue. Men have always wanted to be the protectors and providers for women. We are happy to play this role. Well do all the dirty jobs and dangerous jobs and fight the bloody power struggles etc all in the name of protecting and providing for women. We also have invented absolutely everything of value that ever existed for the species. We pioneered the French revolution, the industrial revolution, medicine, the scientific method , information technology etc. Our thanks ? To be told we're a bunch of murdering rapists ? How little must you think of men to think we will tolerate this treatment for much longer. It would not take men even 5 minutes to rule the world and rape and kill all the women around if we wanted to. If we have any desire to. We don't ! Instead we fight against these very thing we're told make up so much of what it is to be a man by the femnazis.