Moving to Ireland

[shearder]

Hi Guys

Has anyone been to, OR still in, Ireland to work AND have a family? Particularly Dublin. I have done some searching etc and there are MANY versions of "what is the cost of living".

The question is "how much do i want to earn" and the answer could make or break the negotiations. SO 3K Euro will be dumb but get me in without another question and 15k Euro will be a breaker.

Any ideas in terms of 1 kid Junior School, 1 Kid Senior (next year), dogs etc etc...

Probably live outside Dublin.

tnx

 

[Gtx Gaming]

Thing to keep note:

1. Massive housing crisis ,you will be spending quite a bit on rent and won't get much for it. Applies to anything near the big cities. Probably 1000E to 1500E for flat that you can commute to dublin to. You will find it hard to find place that accept pets.
2. Public transport is not great in most areas, you might need a car to get bus stop etc.
3. Most of schools are catholic, you can opt out of the catholic related activities at the school.
4. Car insurance is extremely expensive, this does get cheaper after a year or 2 after you build up a record. Its also charged as a yearly thing. But companies let you finance this by paying this first and last month and pay the rest of monthly. To get the best rate, buy the newest car under 10 years old with smallest engine size.
5. If you stay up north you can do you shopping in Newry in Northern Ireland, slightly cheaper and more selection etc. I prefer doing that when I stay up In dundalk.

You can save up quite a bit of cash if you can work from home, then you can a house for about 600E in the country side and save on having a car .

You also want to try and avoid driving to Dublin, traffic is terrible and there is toll roads.

 

[shearder]

Thanks for that response. I am hoping for the first few months to work away from the office and possibly still in SA which will help iron stuff out. The housing problem is an important one.

I noticed a lot of info on expenses excluded rent or housing.

Working off site is a possibility but the position may require more in office work initially.

Lots of homework.

BUT this will be a permanent move - would you recommend the jump?

 

[WAslayer]

After discussing this with a colleague of mine in Dublin, the offer of 5k euro a month I received was not going to cut it for my family of three.. it looked slightly more tempting if I had lived country side but, owning a car there is ludicrously expensive when you factor in insurance and other costs..

The plus side was, from what my colleague explained, my wife could have worked any minimum wage job until we had PR.. that added income would have helped..

 

[shearder]

Yeah so I'm hovering around 8500 to 9000 in terms of an ask. That's where it seems I need to go!

 

[Gtx Gaming]

Thanks for that response. I am hoping for the first few months to work away from the office and possibly still in SA which will help iron stuff out. The housing problem is an important one.

I noticed a lot of info on expenses excluded rent or housing.

Working off site is a possibility but the position may require more in office work initially.

Lots of homework.

BUT this will be a permanent move - would you recommend the jump?

Yes worth the move still, I am considering it myself. Unless the UK brings out points system soon which hopefully makes it easier to move for spouse of BP.

I would still prefer UK/Netherlands. Both requires my wife to work for me to come over and stay, which she prefers not to do. But I could probably land a work offer for visa for Netherlands, as IT is in high demand.

 

[Matt91]

My uncle lives in Ireland, not sure where exactly, but I do know every time I see him he complains about how expensive it is to live there.

 

[shearder]

My uncle lives in Ireland, not sure where exactly, but I do know every time I see him he complains about how expensive it is to live there.

Oh yeah i don't doubt it for one minute. This move will be a professional one BUT with the view that my kids will have (assumed) better future offering when they are done with school.

I am not looking for "a bed of roses" scenario that would be very Naive - there are serious expenses. After 4 years I will be (should be) a citizen and i am hoping then the options of buying a house are better/easier if i can't do that in the first 2.

 

[Gtx Gaming]

Oh yeah i don't doubt it for one minute. This move will be a professional one BUT with the view that my kids will have (assumed) better future offering when they are done with school.

I am not looking for "a bed of roses" scenario that would be very Naive - there are serious expenses. After 4 years I will be (should be) a citizen and i am hoping then the options of buying a house are better/easier if i can't do that in the first 2.

House options stay same, 10% deposit required as min

 

[Matt91]

Oh yeah i don't doubt it for one minute. This move will be a professional one BUT with the view that my kids will have (assumed) better future offering when they are done with school.

I am not looking for "a bed of roses" scenario that would be very Naive - there are serious expenses. After 4 years I will be (should be) a citizen and i am hoping then the options of buying a house are better/easier if i can't do that in the first 2.

I think being South Africans we are just very sensitive when it comes to converting our hard earned peanuts for Euros/Pounds/Dollars. On the whole though I definitely think its the best decision a Saffer could make albeit a very tough one.

 

[PhreakBoy]

Have a friend in Dublin:

He gave me these numbers, hope it helps:
Family of 4, one kid primary school, one kid final year high school.

(all amounts in EUR)
Rent: 2,300 (I think it is 3 bedroom with garage)
Internet / TV / Phone: 140
Electricity: 80
Gas: 30
Wife + kids cellphone: 80
Fuel: 50 (they took one of their cars from SA)
Public Transport: 75 (he takes bus to work and both kids take bus to school, wife is was not working at that stage)
Groceries: 800
Toiletries: 50

I know this is not comprehensive, but think it is better than nothing. I'm not sure how schooling works, but suspect it may be free for public schools.

 

[shearder]

House options stay same, 10% deposit required as min

Once my house here gets sold I should have that covered and then some (i hope) lol IF I get what i could.

 

[Gtx Gaming]

Once my house here gets sold I should have that covered and then some (i hope) lol IF I get what i could.

I forgot you get some cashback from some banks.

Cashback Plus | Mortgage | Bank of Ireland

Get 2% of your new mortgage back as cash upfront. Plus, we'll give you an additional 1% of your mortgage back in cash in five years’ time (subject to T&Cs)

personalbanking.bankofireland.com

2% of your new mortgage back as cash upfront.

 

[shearder]

Have a friend in Dublin:

He gave me these numbers, hope it helps:
Family of 4, one kid primary school, one kid final year high school.

(all amounts in EUR)
Rent: 2,300 (I think it is 3 bedroom with garage)
Internet / TV / Phone: 140
Electricity: 80
Gas: 30
Wife + kids cellphone: 80
Fuel: 50 (they took one of their cars from SA)
Public Transport: 75 (he takes bus to work and both kids take bus to school, wife is was not working at that stage)
Groceries: 800
Toiletries: 50

I know this is not comprehensive, but think it is better than nothing. I'm not sure how schooling works, but suspect it may be free for public schools.

THANKS a ton for that. It does help. Because i can start looking at the averages in a more informed way.

Now taking a Car from SA sounds like a good plan because the one is almost paid and the other is pretty new (wife's)

Thanks again!!

 

[shearder]

I forgot you get some cashback from some banks.

Cashback Plus | Mortgage | Bank of Ireland

Get 2% of your new mortgage back as cash upfront. Plus, we'll give you an additional 1% of your mortgage back in cash in five years’ time (subject to T&Cs)

personalbanking.bankofireland.com

2% of your new mortgage back as cash upfront.

A that is awesome! Will come in handy establishing a new home!