moving to SA, what dsl

TMoose said:
I agree man, we have an awesome country with great down-to-Earth people, great weather, biltong, braais and Springbok rugby. Here if I'm sick of the city I can pack my car and go to the dam for a weekend. I love this place.

What about the women?
I think we have the best
 
lewstherin said:
gee a whole 4 online retail sites for a population of 40 million people.

Of which 40% is unemployed and how many people do you think has access to the internet in this country ???.
 
okay, let's recap the supposed benefits of living in SA:

1) a whole 10 web based economic sites found thus far,
2) the supposed joys of 'swimming with dolphins' (of course you have to have the money and time to go do this, which eliminates around 99.4% of the population from ever doing this)
Ditto 'appreciating the apparent beauty of our geography' - you have to be making enough money to have the spare time to ride around and go 'gosh look at that'.)
3) allegedly 'great weather' (see our rising skin cancer/eye-cataract rates)
- which also allows for the social experience of cooking meat outdoors. Great if you eat meat or drink alcohol apparently.
4) supposedly pretty women. (No mention of their 'intellect', 'ability' or anything else, I notice.)
5) 'sport' (whatever that is, and whoever thinks that's important or meaningful on any genuine level beyond providing conversation for strangers to talk about something they're both interested in.)

on the negative side?
-600 deaths a day (and rising) from AID's - so I wouldn't touch those 'pretty women' without serious disinfectant and repeated medical certificates showing their status.
-around 100-120 murder deaths every day.
-1.6 million (and rising) rapes every year.
-an almost complete inability to walk around freely and safely across 99% of this country, once night falls - given the widespread social and civil disorder. Which means everyone, regardless of ethnic origin or class, locks themselves in at night, behind high walls and electric fences (if they can afford them) as well as buttons linking to armed security firms, and with a mindset which would be diagnosed as paranoia and schizophrenia in any normal country - combined with the ongoing self-delusion that they're somehow 'enjoying' their country.
What's to enjoy? The view from behind the burglar bars, across the bit of lawn, to the high wall encircling your property?

Yup. Beautiful isn't it?
:)
*slips on flameproof gear*
 
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LoneGunman said:
What's to enjoy?

A quality of life which very few of us could duplicate in another country.
We have it rather good here.
 
Ahhh - LGM - I suspect you have a more balanced view, a side that does see the good as well (I sure hope so anyway !)

It all depends what your interests are.

If you enjoy standing in the sun getting skin cancer while eating the charred flesh of dead animals and guzzling back liquids that poison the mind and body, then that's great - all power to people who like this type of activity.

If on the other hand, you enjoy sitting in a darkened room chain smoking cigarrettes and guzzling copious amounts of coffee while hunched over your keyboard following more intellectual persuits, that has it's benefits too.

Balance is the key.

I suggest that the aspiring tourist not only swim with the dolphins, but also take a dip with the sharks, to see how the other half live !

Lets also hope that they purchase their factor 100 sun block here in South Africa, bearing a "proudly south african" logo and costing 5 times as much as it does back home.

But seriously, having met with a Mexican journo at the start of his travels in South Africa and on Friday at the end, he's in love with this place - and he was purposefully going out to not do "the tourist" thing, but to interview people about this country.
He sees it as a very positive place, which I found somehow comforting.

Of course, when I returned home that afternoon, I eyed out four black guys sauntering down my road and zipped into my drive way in double quick time, leapt out the car and closed and padlocked my gate, just in case.

I don't have an electric gate, or burglar alarms, or spikes on my wall, but I do get a bit paranoid every now and then.

Balance - it's all about balance, the problem is, if your center of gravity isn't that good, you keep falling over ...
 
bb_matt and LoneGunMans posts ? Good stuff and actually make me think... not something i do that often... thanks guys.

WretchedToad :D
 
I am not aware that you can get 4Mbis ADSL in London, they were only recently testing 3Mbit. Are you sure?
 
I will now show you something very few South Africans have ever seen
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=7/18315310288.jpg&s=x3

See? A window...with no burglar bars.

I miss S.A., with every bone in my body but no way in hell am I going back to jittery sleepless nights with a gun under the pillow. Keep the sun, and the braai...

You can get 4mbit ADSL, or even 8mbit ADSL if you are close enough to an exchange. Your confusion comes from the fact that the cable companies are rolling out 3mbit (up from 1.5mbit) for cable modems and set top boxes (some of the set top boxes have built in cable modems)
 
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