http://www.news24.com/News24/Africa/Zimbabwe/0,,2-11-1662_2299694,00.html
This is not the way to go :/
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http://www.news24.com/News24/Africa/Zimbabwe/0,,2-11-1662_2299694,00.html
This is not the way to go :/
Ou grote
Honorary Master
Yep, Bad Bob ain't going nowhere.
Dange--Russ
Well-Known Member
Did anyone really think anything was going to change?
EDIT http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/04/03/zimbabwe.election/index.html EDIT
EDIT http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/04/03/zimbabwe.election/index.html EDIT
HavocXphere
Honorary Master
This sucks.
d0b33
Honorary Master
Well guess this was expected... and this government keeping quiet about it as usual says a lot.
Dange--Russ
Well-Known Member
Mbeki was the mediator wasn't he? He's just as bad.
AirWolf
Honorary Master
Mugabe has really lost the plot
.Dange--Russ
Well-Known Member
I dont know why they bothering to vote. Zim is a dictatorship now. Anyone surprised??? Not me.
semiautomatix
Honorary Master
Well, he can't hide it if thats the case. Thabo, get off you drunk backside and at least act like a President.
semiautomatix
Honorary Master
Must be nice to know you're going to go down in history with the likes of Amin, Peron, Pinochet and Charles Taylor.
Robert, don't you realise, history will not think kindly of you.
Robert, don't you realise, history will not think kindly of you.
You know about that?
Did you know of his cocaine habit?
Well, habit is the understatement of the year!
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Bru, this government does not want the MDC in power, nor does the SADC region.
This is African democracy at work, maybe Afromockracy is a better word.
And these leaders point fingers at the witous of this world, LOL
Botswana being the exception
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LoneGunman
Expert Member
the trouble is:
Mugabe cracks down, some degree of uprising starts inside Zim - and an armed revolution starts going through its usual structure.. it means that SA and the other countries surrounding Zim, are going to be used by the resistance to Mugabe, who in turn, is going to launch 'cross border raids' back at them..
And then comes the next layer of complexity.. namely, it suits the US in some ways, to have Zim in a state of chaos - because it prevents China from getting a solid foothold in Africa. All morality issues aside, if you look at the proxy wars in other parts of this continent - they end up draining the countries economies, and removing most of the democracy that exists, while multinational corporations then quietly leech away at whatever they happen to be wanting..
So one doesn't want Mugabe to take any further steps.. because there are large superpowers who are very keen to exploit regional instability for future long term
tactical goals, and SA is right alongside the potential flash point..
This is 'interesting' at least in some ways, coz it might kick the rock over that the ANC's been hiding underneath for so many years, and show a different face to the 'democracy-loving' PR that the ANC's been riding on the coat tails of.
Because they'll have to either address the issue firmly (if total uprising/warfare erupts) or finally - side with Mugabe, and repress internal dissent in SA..
Mugabe cracks down, some degree of uprising starts inside Zim - and an armed revolution starts going through its usual structure.. it means that SA and the other countries surrounding Zim, are going to be used by the resistance to Mugabe, who in turn, is going to launch 'cross border raids' back at them..
And then comes the next layer of complexity.. namely, it suits the US in some ways, to have Zim in a state of chaos - because it prevents China from getting a solid foothold in Africa. All morality issues aside, if you look at the proxy wars in other parts of this continent - they end up draining the countries economies, and removing most of the democracy that exists, while multinational corporations then quietly leech away at whatever they happen to be wanting..
So one doesn't want Mugabe to take any further steps.. because there are large superpowers who are very keen to exploit regional instability for future long term
tactical goals, and SA is right alongside the potential flash point..
This is 'interesting' at least in some ways, coz it might kick the rock over that the ANC's been hiding underneath for so many years, and show a different face to the 'democracy-loving' PR that the ANC's been riding on the coat tails of.
Because they'll have to either address the issue firmly (if total uprising/warfare erupts) or finally - side with Mugabe, and repress internal dissent in SA..
all while Botswana had a peaceful transition at the same time, completely under the radar.
No matter what super power wants what,, the power is in the hands of the people of Zimbabwe, all they need to do is exercise that right.
No matter what super power wants what,, the power is in the hands of the people of Zimbabwe, all they need to do is exercise that right.
Well he has to do something - he does nothing else to pass the time on his lengthy flightsYou know about that?
Did you know of his cocaine habit?
Well, habit is the understatement of the year!
If America wanted to shut China down, they would do it in one day.
1. Stop using China for manufacturing of their own products.
2. Stop buying other countries' "Made in China" products.
Korea, Taiwan and other countries would take over very quickly,
and although products would be a bit more expensive initially,
it wouldn't last long.
The Yanks are happy with an economically strong China. Its good for business.