MWEB Gaming Feedback

AfricanTech said:
2. OpenDNS: Mostly using this for the blocking facilities - i.e. to ensure that kids don't inadvertently stumble upon undesirable sites. Also received feedback from other users that OpenDNS works better with PS3.
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That is a valid reason for using OpenDNS, but generally OpenDNS will give you slower internet, and there are a few reasons for this.

1. Instead of waiting 30-40ms for a DNS request, it now takes 300-500ms. Tiny difference you might say, but when your browser has to do this for multiple urls, images ect. just to load 1 web page, it starts to add up, up to seconds later on. I hope you can see where I am going with this...

2. Using any DNS server that is not on your ISPs network, might redirect you to servers that slower, in most cases not optimized for your ISPs network. An example here would be, Google, Youtube, Facebook, Gumtree, adverts, other video streaming webites, pretty much anything that makes use of Akamai, and let me tell you, A LOT of services you use everyday makes use of this. There are actually a lot more to this, but in general, expect most things to be slower, feel slower and just be plain slower.

In my honest opinion, DNS is the worst possible method to block your kids from visiting unwanted websites, yes it works and is a valid reason, but there are better ways at doing that without slowing down your own internet experience. While I am not in the position of needing something like this, I think there are better ways out there to prevent your kids from going to unwanted websites, particularly I would rather use some sort of software on the PC, if the kids have their own PCs use some kind of router setup, even if someone else has to set it up for you.
 
Will@MWEB said:
Tracing route to www.mint.com [66.151.159.198]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

[snip]

Trace complete.

Hops 9 and 10 highlight where you leave SA and arrive on the London end of Seacom, from there you are picking quite a bit of latency to your final destination, not much to be done about that I'm afraid. However I thought that by slowness you meant download speeds?
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Download from that site is slow - that's where I got iso's from.

So, the really frustrating thing is that tonight the PS3 connection runs like a dream - I've made no changes on my side from last night - exact same connections, setups, DNS, etc but suddenly everything works perfectly - good solid speeds, no timeouts. So tonight I am happy as anything and back to my orginal MWEB 4 meg experience.

Anyway, I'm not going to rant about it - just happy it's all working well now (although I don't know why it stopped working properly in the first place).

Thanks for the advice everyone.
 
Tinuva said:
That is a valid reason for using OpenDNS, but generally OpenDNS will give you slower internet, and there are a few reasons for this.

1. Instead of waiting 30-40ms for a DNS request, it now takes 300-500ms. Tiny difference you might say, but when your browser has to do this for multiple urls, images ect. just to load 1 web page, it starts to add up, up to seconds later on. I hope you can see where I am going with this...

2. Using any DNS server that is not on your ISPs network, might redirect you to servers that slower, in most cases not optimized for your ISPs network. An example here would be, Google, Youtube, Facebook, Gumtree, adverts, other video streaming webites, pretty much anything that makes use of Akamai, and let me tell you, A LOT of services you use everyday makes use of this. There are actually a lot more to this, but in general, expect most things to be slower, feel slower and just be plain slower.

In my honest opinion, DNS is the worst possible method to block your kids from visiting unwanted websites, yes it works and is a valid reason, but there are better ways at doing that without slowing down your own internet experience. While I am not in the position of needing something like this, I think there are better ways out there to prevent your kids from going to unwanted websites, particularly I would rather use some sort of software on the PC, if the kids have their own PCs use some kind of router setup, even if someone else has to set it up for you.
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The problem with putting stuff on the local PC is that it slows the entire machine down and adds additional maintenance overhead.

Same thing for the router setup - too much of a pain to define the white and blacklists and whatnot

Same thing with Hosts. files, etc - just too much of a maintenance pain (and not very secure)

I don't mind the slight tradeoff in speed for convenience - hell, I've just gone from 384 to 4 meg so this is a dream for me.

I've considered things like K9 or even Mwebs own software in this area, but it really is too much of a PITA to maintain.

Thanks for the feedback, although what you say under point 2 makes logical sense, my own observations has not really reflected this - do you know of any tools I can use to definitively check just how much overhead OpenDNS is adding.

Cheers
 
Ok I'm running on caffiene at the moment :D, but help me out here - mint.com appears to be a financial site?

Some of my recent testing for speeds has been done with linux isos from the ftp.sun.ac.za mirrors - these generally hit very decent speeds, you might want to try that as an alternate source.
 
:o whoops - I'm an idiot - I meant www.linuxmint.com - sorry about that :o

Same issue though - see tracert

2 10 ms 10 ms 9 ms 41-133-106-1.dsl.mweb.co.za [41.133.106.1]
3 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms 196-28-178-166.adsl.mweb.co.za [196.28.178.166]
4 11 ms 10 ms 11 ms 196-28-179-11.adsl.mweb.co.za [196.28.179.11]
5 12 ms 13 ms 13 ms 196-28-178-97.adsl.mweb.co.za [196.28.178.97]
6 35 ms 37 ms 36 ms gig-0-0-1.vic-hscore-3.mweb.co.za [196.22.169.45]
7 35 ms 35 ms 36 ms 196.22.169.61
8 39 ms 39 ms 38 ms tengig-0-0-0-0-11.vic-up-2.mweb.co.za [196.22.169.226]
9 42 ms 38 ms 37 ms tengig-0-2-0-0.mid-1.mweb.co.za [196.22.169.219]
10 265 ms 275 ms 264 ms PO9-0.lon-001-access-1.interoute.net [89.202.130.181]
11 278 ms 296 ms 277 ms xe-1-3-0-0.lon-001-score-1-re0.interoute.net [84.233.218.178]
12 280 ms 279 ms 278 ms ae1-0.ams-koo-score-1-re0.interoute.net [84.233.190.57]
13 271 ms 272 ms 274 ms ae0-0.ams-koo-score-2-re0.interoute.net [84.233.190.2]
14 278 ms 278 ms 277 ms ae3-0.fra-006-score-3-re0.interoute.net [84.233.190.50]
15 279 ms 280 ms 282 ms tge-5-1-0-353a.cr2.fra.routeserver.net [80.81.193.21]
16 279 ms 279 ms 279 ms 217.118.16.130
17 282 ms 281 ms 281 ms 217.118.16.26
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 285 ms 283 ms 282 ms 217.118.23.246
20 342 ms 281 ms 281 ms foxtrot417.server4you.de [85.25.140.189]
 
my 2c , Im with SAOL's 384K Uncapped - Shaped + FUP , 15000MS in World Of Warcraft, 5.0kbps Utorrent, 45kbps HTTP,

Phoned & mailed them numerous times about this WoW latency, the first person passed me on too a support guy that didnt understand what a "world of warcraft" was, put me through too sales clerk for some reason who told me to Mail my issue too support.. so i did.. no answer or reply in a week so i call
them again and the same loop happened and i resent the same mail too support and continued too wait. 2 weeks passed & now am angry because im on
vacation & want too play WoW, Phoned them and couldnt seem to get anyone to understand that my downloads are fine. my streaming is fine. all is fine except huge latency with an online game . and now its the 2st of december and no type of solution.
 
Hi Will@mweb, are you guys still working on it to try fix the mad ms and im still having realy bad lag with a proxy to.
 
Nicelag said:
Hi Will@mweb, are you guys still working on it to try fix the mad ms and im still having realy bad lag with a proxy to.
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Very definitely Nicelag and making some progress I think, but I don't want to update until I have something more definite - did anyone notice any improvement last night, excluding proxy and MTU fixed experience?
 
vinnigepiet said:
This is Mweb not SAOL......and..... --^ fixed
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This is bigger than Mweb, many ISP's around the world are / were "effected" from the packaging changes,
as for fixed, speak for yourself- SAOL is not intrested in this problem after numerous calls too them with
detailed explanations. they dont have a forum so here i am.
 
Katline said:
This is bigger than Mweb, many ISP's around the world are / were "effected" from the packaging changes,
as for fixed, speak for yourself- SAOL is not intrested in this problem after numerous calls too them with
detailed explanations. they dont have a forum so here i am.
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o my......

SAOL, never heard of them......so they sound small to me, AND i doubt it is bigger than Mweb as they have OUTRAGEOUS prices

---> 1MB up to 10MB | 3Gig | R 519.00, LOL what? is hulle BE&*K in hulle koppe?
 
mmmm seems like my internet is messed up, cant even browse some int pages........SUG

wanner gaan mweb hulle K@K uitsort................./sigh!!!!!



ooooo look O_O

>tracert www.bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.244.70]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 19 ms 8 ms 9 ms 41-132-38-1.dsl.mweb.co.za [41.132.38.1]
3 9 ms 18 ms 12 ms 196-28-178-190.adsl.mweb.co.za [196.28.178.190]

4 10 ms 9 ms 10 ms 196-28-179-11.adsl.mweb.co.za [196.28.179.11]
5 11 ms 25 ms 12 ms 196-28-178-97.adsl.mweb.co.za [196.28.178.97]
6 34 ms 57 ms 36 ms gig-0-0-0.vic-hscore-3.mweb.co.za [196.22.169.41
]
7 33 ms 34 ms 33 ms 196.22.169.61
8 40 ms 45 ms 56 ms tengig-0-0-0-0-11.vic-up-1.mweb.co.za [196.22.16
9.225]
9 38 ms 38 ms 53 ms tengig-0-3-1-0.mid-1.mweb.co.za [196.22.169.211]

10 379 ms 376 ms 379 ms pos-0-0-0-0.lon-1.mweb.co.za [196.22.163.230]
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 ^C
 
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XennoX said:
Well here's a new problem for ya. When trying to run the Minecraft.exe to download the files it requires to play, the download gets stuck at the 'Done Loading' part or it gets a black screen. I've followed the support given on the Minecraft forums to no avail. I then switch over to an Axxess 1GB prepaid account and guess what, the game works. So is Mweb messing around with the Minecraft download signatures?
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It seems mweb is serving bad files out of their cache for minecraft updates. Unfortunately it still seems to be an issue despite being reported a month ago.
 
@Will

384k/5gb account, in Cape Town Northern Suburbs, and the Wow problem seem better, so you guys must be making progress. Still not great. Won't attempt raiding yet, but playable at least after hours for the past 2 nights.

cheers
 
Will@MWEB said:
Very definitely Nicelag and making some progress I think, but I don't want to update until I have something more definite - did anyone notice any improvement last night, excluding proxy and MTU fixed experience?
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Hmm, yep, everything was running just peachy last night (PS3, PC) - no changes on my side - so whatever was done seems to have helped.

Thanks
 
Will@MWEB said:
did anyone notice any improvement last night, excluding proxy and MTU fixed experience?
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Hi Will,
logged in last night 19:45, about 6000ms, settled to about 3000ms after 20mins. Switched to backup account to be able to play. Still running without any proxies or MTU adjustments.
 
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