My first order ...

[Dolby]

Can't you long press on the quality settings same as the Android TV app and it will bring up the stats page?

True.

Ok, seems great

 

[Dolby]

Another thing - I thought iTunes was dead or replaced with ATV+ but (just before the power died at 20.00) I see an iTunes and Computer icon.

What is iTunes still used for?

 

[Romeo_RX]

Another thing - I thought iTunes was dead or replaced with ATV+ but (just before the power died at 20.00) I see an iTunes and Computer icon.

What is iTunes still used for?

Music and movie purchases - ATV+ is the Apple TV streaming service, like Netflix

 

[Dolby]

Music and movie purchases - ATV+ is the Apple TV streaming service, like Netflix

Thanks.

Little one using TV now, so I'll check soon. But I thought within the app there was also a place to buy/rent movies

 

[prod]

Thanks.

Little one using TV now, so I'll check soon. But I thought within the app there was also a place to buy/rent movies

You can buy/rent movies through TV+, only place I buy movies from - don't use iTunes at all

 

[SauRoNZA]

So, I got the Apple TV.

How does one know that you're getting Dolby Atmos on Disney+, other than the soundbar display?

Going to audio settings on an Android TV has the Dolby logo, so I assumed something similar.

On the soundbar display.

Source settings have never been a reliable way of telling what’s actually coming out the other end.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Another thing - I thought iTunes was dead or replaced with ATV+ but (just before the power died at 20.00) I see an iTunes and Computer icon.

What is iTunes still used for?

I believe that’s purely for legacy Home Sharing.

So if you “streamed” inside your house back in the day and it’s still supported now.

Movies purchases etc are all via ATV+ app.

*****

Actually just checked and it’s just a legacy front end for Movies + TV, exactly the same you’ll find in ATV+.

Probably just for user experience and slow transition to be phased out at some point.

Or simply to get to that content directly, because ATV+ does blend it all.

 

[Romeo_RX]

I believe that’s purely for legacy Home Sharing.

So if you “streamed” inside your house back in the day and it’s still supported now.

Movies purchases etc are all via ATV+ app.

I’m actually just using the Android TV app at the moment and didn’t realise that it wasn’t just the pre-existing library, but the store as well.

What about music though?

 

[SauRoNZA]

I’m actually just using the Android TV app at the moment and didn’t realise that it wasn’t just the pre-existing library, but the store as well.

What about music though?

Music lives in Music.

Which is also on Android I believe.

 

[Romeo_RX]

Music lives in Music.

Which is also on Android I believe.

Okay, so I was right about Apple TV plus being the streaming service, it’s a separate tab within the Apple TV app, but I can see why that could be different on Apple’s own hardware.

The music app on my iPhone doesn’t have a store, but checking settings for a toggle. I’ve been making all my purchases through iTunes.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Okay, so I was right about Apple TV plus being the streaming service, it’s a separate tab within the Apple TV app, but I can see why that could be different on Apple’s own hardware.

The music app on my iPhone doesn’t have a store, but checking settings for a toggle. I’ve been making all my purchases through iTunes.

Yeah that is the same on the Apple TV as well, it’s all inside the ATV+ app and blended together.

They have just left the legacy option there as well (which looks the same, just a different flow to get there) I’m guessing not to upset users with too many new things.

On iPhone to purchase music directly there is still the legacy iTunes Store app as well.

 

[Dolby]

Thanks guys!

Honestly, I'm very impressed with it.

 

[Dolby]

So a few points :

I knew about this issue, but YouTube HDR doesn't work with content match. I've got my ATV set to SDR and match content and all apps work correctly, barring YouTube.

Although I don't watch much Prime Video, it can't do HDR10+ yet. So watching on the ATV is slightly worse than the Samsung native app. But, not a biggy...

This is though : A friend hosts a server and he says when people use the 'wrong' device, it causes his server to transcode/work harder - and everyone streaming from him suffers.

Tried to watch a movie now on ATV was low resolution and it seems it couldn't play direct or something. Watched it on my Samsung and perfect

 

[SauRoNZA]

So a few points :

I knew about this issue, but YouTube HDR doesn't work with content match. I've got my ATV set to SDR and match content and all apps work correctly, barring YouTube.

Although I don't watch much Prime Video, it can't do HDR10+ yet. So watching on the ATV is slightly worse than the Samsung native app. But, not a biggy...

This is though : A friend hosts a server and he says when people use the 'wrong' device, it causes his server to transcode/work harder - and everyone streaming from him suffers.

Tried to watch a movie now on ATV was low resolution and it seems it couldn't play direct or something. Watched it on my Samsung and perfect

Those issues are down to the people in charge of the apps not being bothered. As in Google and Amazon, nothing Apple can do about that.

As for the streaming problem, presumably it’s Plex in which case your mate simply needs to not limit streaming to X bandwidth or you need to select Original Quality and make sure Direct Play / Direct Stream is enabled.

 

[Dolby]

Those issues are down to the people in charge of the apps not being bothered. As in Google and Amazon, nothing Apple can do about that

I know with Amazon it's not them as Apple just don't support. There have been a few rumours, but no one knows as some original statements have been removed :

Apple brings HDR10+ to Apple TV, iPhone and iPad, but there's a catch

It's here at last, but only in one app, weirdly

www.techradar.com

HDR10+ Support Not Coming to Apple TV App in iOS 16 and macOS Ventura After All?

Following the WWDC 2022 keynote event on Monday, Apple published iOS 16, iPadOS 16, and macOS Ventura Preview pages outlining all of the new features. All three sites listed "HDR10+" support for the Apple TV app as an upcoming feature, but now that mention has been removed. Apple this morning...

www.macrumors.com

As for the streaming problem, presumably it’s Plex in which case your mate simply needs to not limit streaming to X bandwidth or you need to select Original Quality and make sure Direct Play / Direct Stream is enabled.

Can't be on his side as all my other devices still work perfectly with wherever setting he has now - it's just the Apple that is battling. If there is anything setting related, it's on my side.

But basically I feel my TV is doing or supporting something the Apple TV isn't.

 

[SauRoNZA]

I know with Amazon it's not them as Apple just don't support. There have been a few rumours, but no one knows as some original statements have been removed :

Apple brings HDR10+ to Apple TV, iPhone and iPad, but there's a catch

It's here at last, but only in one app, weirdly

www.techradar.com

HDR10+ Support Not Coming to Apple TV App in iOS 16 and macOS Ventura After All?

Following the WWDC 2022 keynote event on Monday, Apple published iOS 16, iPadOS 16, and macOS Ventura Preview pages outlining all of the new features. All three sites listed "HDR10+" support for the Apple TV app as an upcoming feature, but now that mention has been removed. Apple this morning...

www.macrumors.com

Can't be on his side as all my other devices still work perfectly with wherever setting he has now - it's just the Apple that is battling. If there is anything setting related, it's on my side.

But basically I feel my TV is doing or supporting something the Apple TV isn't.

Are we talking about Plex or something else here?

 

[Dolby]

Are we talking about Plex or something else here?

Just Plex, yup.

I was hoping one streamer to end them all and assumed Plex worked the same. But I'll check all my own settings and see if they are the same.

YouTube and Amazon I'll just forgo HDR and HDR+ for the convenience of a single platform, but I'm hoping to get Plex running correctly

 

[SauRoNZA]

Just Plex, yup.

I was hoping one streamer to end them all and assumed Plex worked the same. But I'll check all my own settings and see if they are the same.

YouTube and Amazon I'll just forgo HDR and HDR+ for the convenience of a single platform, but I'm hoping to get Plex running correctly

Make sure…

Auto Adjust Quality = OFF
Home Streaming = Maximum
Internet Streaming = Maximum

Audio Quality
Internet Streaming = Maximum

Advanced
Allow Direct Play = ON
Display Type = HDR

Subtitles
Burn Subtitles = Only Image Formats

Presumably this friend doesn’t live with you and you are streaming over the internet. The Apple TV actually has more options than most, which is probably where it gets a default setting from that isn’t playing along.

 

[Dolby]

Make sure…

Auto Adjust Quality = OFF
Home Streaming = Maximum
Internet Streaming = Maximum

Audio Quality
Internet Streaming = Maximum

Advanced
Allow Direct Play = ON
Display Type = HDR

Subtitles
Burn Subtitles = Only Image Formats

Will check all the settings, and see what the TV is at as well.

Thanks

 

[Dolby]

Running the same movie as last night and seems ok now. I'll keep trying Plex with other titles and see