Nadeo debit orders

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Last month my tree bank reserved 2 debit orders before the due date !

In short they just said sorry.

If I think from a customer view, if a bond bounce you are in big trouble, but now the issue is on the banks side.

Is sorry the best that they can do ?
 
The question is. What do you want them to do?

They've apologized, but do you need compensation for the fault?
 
Ok, if you have a bond, you sign when must it goes off.

The bank cant just take money as they wishes.

Lets say your bond bounces, will they be happy with sorry / or even better, can I apologize and they will accept that ?
 
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My first post can be used to reply to your second as well.
What do you want the bank to do?

You are clearly not accepting the apology, which goes without saying that they probably fixed the issue and will not do it again.
Yet you are fixated on the fact that they do not acknowledge the issue.

They did. So what do you want?
 
Hate it when debit orders are deducted from my account before the agreed upon date. Breech of contract in my opinion. I especially hate it when it happens with a pre-paid service like insurance. There is no excuse whatsoever for them to take it early.
 
Exactly my point ambroseg1

FNB got clever, as there are a lot of guys defaulting. They "had" a new debit order system which scan's your account, and if funds are available, that are reserved before the debit order date.

Now, I haven't once had any payment defaulting EVER !

Who in heavens name is thinking this cool systems out which put all clients into the same boat, if that makes sense
 
Picture you want to go put petrol in, and see your card swipe is declined because of unavailable funds ... just because of this !

Sorry wont do it for me really !
 
My first post can be used to reply to your second as well.
What do you want the bank to do?

You are clearly not accepting the apology, which goes without saying that they probably fixed the issue and will not do it again.
Yet you are fixated on the fact that they do not acknowledge the issue.

They did. So what do you want?

I think what should happen is that there should be some ramifications for companies that has problems affecting customers in this way. It's such a one way situation, it boils down to they can simply do whatever they want and a sorry must suffice, but when the shoe is on the other foot, you as a consumer gets nailed in an instant.

Some of these company's recent oversights can in some cases cause huge, HUGE problems for someone. Imagine you are standing in a hospital emergency room having to pay to have a critical family member admitted and your bank is suddenly completely gone, or you have filled your car up and now suddenly you don't have the ability to pay the service station, or your cellphone network is down for two days in your are and you loose your bread and butter money.

It has been suggested on here before that you should have a backup for everything, this is impossible and unreasonable, you can't have a backup car, bank account, cellphone, medical aid, ISP, power provider, etc etc.

It is becoming so common these days, and while I understand that problems arise, the corporations have just taken such an arrogate indifferent stance on it and are not nearly as diligent as they can be because they know nothing will happen.

At the very least, every time they stuff up they have to give you one opportunity back to be late with a payment without penalty or whatever (Basically giving you one opportunity in return to stuff up)
 
Companies usually have an 'allow naedo' preference per customer.

They have to honor it, but they default all existing customers (not sure about new) to 'allow naedo' when they introduce the option.

I also thought that it is not in the customers' best interest, but the way in which they justify it is to claim the opposite.
 
In my case ... its is bonds ! And I have never defaulted ! That is why I am very upset.

What if I say to FNB, sorry ... you will get my bond payment when I feel like that
 
Last month my tree bank reserved 2 debit orders before the due date !

In short they just said sorry.

If I think from a customer view, if a bond bounce you are in big trouble, but now the issue is on the banks side.

Is sorry the best that they can do ?

They most likely set up the debit orders with tracking that overlapped your actual due date.
So if there was money in the account, it would have been debited. If there was no money in the account, you wouldn't have been penalised until the final day of tracking if the debit order strikes were still unsuccessful.

EDIT: It's a bit of a gray area in terms of regulation, but this really does mess up people's cash flow management.
 
They most likely set up the debit orders with tracking that overlapped your actual due date.
So if there was money in the account, it would have been debited. If there was no money in the account, you wouldn't have been penalised until the final day of tracking if the debit order strikes were still unsuccessful.

EDIT: It's a bit of a gray area in terms of regulation, but this really does mess up people's cash flow management.


The long and short of this, FNB said they where wrong and reverted me and a few thousand customers to the old way of taking debit orders.

What happens if you have R20K in your cheque account, not to pay banking fees, and that goes off ?

Its one big mess. I actually had now a chat with homeloans, and they say if anyone default it is very bad on your profile (that the long and short of it).

And everyone who have bonds signed at the attorneys to take a specific bond debit order off on a certain date.

Not 2 days before, or a week before. On that specific day.

I was hoping to get some of the thousand FNB clients in the same boat as me to comment
 
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The long and short of this, FNB said they where wrong and reverted me and a few thousand customers to the old way of taking debit orders.

What happens if you have R20K in your cheque account, not to pay banking fees, and that goes off ?

Its one big mess. I actually had now a chat with homeloans, and they if anyone default it is very bad on your profile (that the long and short of it).

And everyone who have bonds signed at the attorneys to take a specific bond debit order off on a certain date.

Not 2 days before, or a week before. On that specific day.

I was hoping to get some of the thousand FNB clients in the same boat as me to comment

Its bad on your profile if you default yes...
FNB made a mistake, they corrected it and would have removed any adverse listings they had implemented because of it. Not entirely sure what else you want them to do?
 
Its bad on your profile if you default yes...
FNB made a mistake, they corrected it and would have removed any adverse listings they had implemented because of it. Not entirely sure what else you want them to do?

So I must just accept sorry. The question is, will they accept sorry if I default ?

I am extremely unhappy, because why do we take time to sign legal documents and then the bank just do as they please

I don't know if any of you plan ahead or have a budget, but I know when someone is taking 1c in advance, and budget accordingly
 
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So I must just accept sorry. The question is, will they accept sorry if I default ?

I am extremely unhappy, because why do we take time to sign legal documents and then the bank just do as they please

No they won't accept a sorry if you default, because you would have conciously chosen to default...

Their systems made a mistake, and they apologised, you are not negatively impacted because of it.
 
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Firstly you create a poor payment profile with your bank, and secondly you negative impact on your credit score

Hardly big trouble, especially if you miss one payment, provided that you are able to cover that missing payment.
 
LOL. Some of the responses here are laughable.

Having a poor payment profile and a negative credit score is no big deal. And you consciously not paying is not the same as the bank's system consciously taking money from you before it is due. Like the bank didn't know their system takes money before it is due. Just LOL.
 
LOL. Some of the responses here are laughable.

Having a poor payment profile and a negative credit score is no big deal. And you consciously not paying is not the same as the bank's system consciously taking money from you before it is due. Like the bank didn't know their system takes money before it is due. Just LOL.

It might not be a big deal to you, but in my eyes it is extremely important.

Did any of you read up actually what is a nadeo debit order ?

Lets say you got a bonus of R100 000, and you owe someone R99 999 ... They have the right to take the money before you can get to it (if you owe them money).

Like I have said, in this case, the system is designed to sheer ever sheep on the same rules. No matter if you are king George or simple Sam

So if FNB goes offline again, I wont moan and I will smile, as that doenst impact anyone. Just pack the goods back and go home. Another story if you want to give petrol back when you filled up !

Again, sorry wont
 
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