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I have a question which I think could if the outcome is what I think it is, change the way something’s are done in SA.

My question is this:

When a SPORT is being played, and the players need to "BUY-IN" to part take with a Cash prize for the winner. This as far as I know is legal, if it's done in a sport? (added the question mark :p)

Let’s take motor racing as an example.

To part take you need to pay an entry fee, the winner wins a cash prize. This AFAIK is 100% legal.

Pls if you are a registered and practicing lawyer I need your input into this. This is very very important and all help is appreciated :)
 
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Pitbull said:
I have a question which I think could if the outcome is what I think it is, change the way something’s are done in SA.

My question is this:

When a SPORT is being played, and the players need to "BUY-IN" to part take with a Cash prize for the winner. This as far as I know is legal, if it's done in a sport.

Let’s take motor racing as an example.

To part take you need to pay an entry fee, the winner wins a cash prize. This AFAIK is 100% legal.

Pls if you are a registered and practicing lawyer I need your input into this. This is very very important and all help is appreciated :)
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What's the question? :confused:
 
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Is it legal to pay an entry fee to part take in a sport for a cash prize ?
 
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Surv0 said:
I presume so....
Poker is a sport surely? Rule applies there...
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Exactly my point.

If this is legal, it's pretty simple to get poker to be played in SA at all levels and all forms. (Live Tournaments) But there is a little hurdle which I will jump once I get confirmation that this is true :)
 
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From what I can see I have the following option.

I can open a Texas no limmit Holdem Tourney venue. At a fixed address, and have people play Live tounaments only. Meaning a Buy-in+re-buys or just Freeze out. Winner takes a set cash prize.

Entry fee covers the cost of the venue and overheads. But I offer a cash prize. All seems 100% legal does it not ?

The fact that they don't play with money on a "bring to the table and play", means they are not gambling but part taking in a tournament.
 
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Pitbull said:
From what I can see I have the following option.

I can open a Texas no limmit Holdem Tourney venue. At a fixed address, and have people play Live tounaments only. Meaning a Buy-in+re-buys or just Freeze out. Winner takes a set cash prize.

Entry fee covers the cost of the venue and overheads. But I offer a cash prize. All seems 100% legal does it not ?

The fact that they don't play with money on a "bring to the table and play", means they are not gambling but part taking in a tournament.
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Poker without raising isnt poker.
 
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I think it may help to find some legal articles on Bingo in this country.
 
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Lord Anubis said:
;) can each persdon not sponsor the event e.g. like a stokvel party...
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Thing is, I want to open a set venue with a bar.

Daily tournaments, with Big tournaments on the weekends, lets say a saturday afternoon. From what I can gather, as long as the house is not taking a cut from the pot it's legal.

Now if I have a Bar, with space for lets say 50 poker players, and I charge R 50 entry (Buy-in) when they enter and give out set cash prizes which is decided up front. Is this legal.

Lets say I put down R 2000 cash prize for the winner daily and charge R 100 "cover charge" for entry to my bar. Everyone in the bar is able to enter the tournament if they so choose. If not it's fine.

Legal or not ?
 
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I can give you legal advice on this, but you need to pay the inital deposit for a consultation first and give me your postal adrress for the final invoice to be sent to.
 
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blunomore said:
I can give you legal advice on this, but you need to pay the inital deposit for a consultation first and give me your postal adrress for the final invoice to be sent to.
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All Lawyers do this, give me the fee's chargeable and the I'll decide. Don;t tell me you will give me advice and I need to pay for the consultation with out the rates :D

But so far I'm pretty sure I have all the legal angles covered with the above example.
 
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Pitbull said:
All Lawyers do this, give me the fee's chargeable and the I'll decide. Don;t tell me you will give me advice and I need to pay for the consultation with out the rates :D

But so far I'm pretty sure I have all the legal angles covered with the above example.
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Do you have a liquor license?
 
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