Need a new website designed/developed. Any pointers?

Raizon.I.T.

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Hi guys,

Been meaning to have my site updated for a while now. Finally I think it's about time to do it, and it'll be worth the cash in the long run.

What I'm thinking of including for starters:

- Newsletter signup
- Online catalogue with price request feature (don't think I want to go the e-commerce route, or should I?) So would require a CMS.
- Specials page (image upload)
- Featured product on home page
- 2 or 3 other pages for about us etc.
- Contact us page
- etc :)

Two things:

1) Anything I've missed out that you recommend?
2) How much am I looking at spending to have this done (design and develop, I'll sort out the hosting). Please recommend people to contact if you know of any :)

Thanks in advance.

Jaryd
 
Contact texo for hosting (something i'll be doing soooon)

he's a forumtie
 
Well firstly. I just checked out your site and to be quite honest, I won't take the time to phone you.

People, including me prefer an "online store", I can't emphasise this enough. When I go onto a site that sells services or products, I expect them to have the capability to "order" those services or products.

There are many online store scripts or CMS solutions, like ZenCart, OsCommerce to mention a few.

Do you actually want to make sales, or do you want to provide a pretty image for would be clients? I would suggest making sales is the first priority.

Speak to Eitai (never can spell it correctly) from Digital Addiction, he's a forum member here and share some ideas with him. I'm sure he will give you some advice if you ask nicely.

Before thinking of any site development, make a plan on what you want your business to achieve ;)
 
Thanks for the tip - fortunately I got a friend who does hosting, so he hosts my site and does my mail for free. :)

Any tips on the actual site though?
 
Thanka Teraside. I know the current site is shocking, hence the reason I need to have a new one done :)

I have looked at using ZenCart, CubeCart and osCommerce all before and tested them, they are all good and easy to use however, I find the manual input of each product ridiculously frustrating.

I would seriously look into doing an online shop if there was a simple code/add on I could use that would auto-import from excel lists (supplier pricelists). That would be a huge help. If it means I have to sit there and plug in every item seperately to make sales, then I guess I would do it - but if there is an easier way, I'd like to know? :)

@ Teraside - know of anyone who could do a design around osCommerce/CubeCart? I've looked at online templates - but quite honestly would prefer a custom design.
 
Thanks for the heads up :) I'll try get this sorted out and have an online shop up n running.

Will keep you posted on progress and let you know when it's up. If I don't need more advice before then that it :D
 
Raizon -- please do yourself a favour and have a look at magento and prestashop before you commit to oscommerce or zencart. I've just completed a zencart integration for a client, and two months ago I did a similar project using oscommerce.

Both of them are extremely powerful tools, but are really difficult to theme. They gave me SERIOUS headaches! :) Both magento and prestashop, on the other hand, are wonderfully designer-friendly tools, and make managing your products a *lot* easier.

www.prestashop.com
www.magentocommerce.com

ETA: they both allow csv import/export IIRC
 
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Problem will be finding a good template to buy online - How much would it cost to get one custom desgined for either Magento or Presta?
 
Thanka Teraside. I know the current site is shocking, hence the reason I need to have a new one done :)

I have looked at using ZenCart, CubeCart and osCommerce all before and tested them, they are all good and easy to use however, I find the manual input of each product ridiculously frustrating.

I would seriously look into doing an online shop if there was a simple code/add on I could use that would auto-import from excel lists (supplier pricelists). That would be a huge help. If it means I have to sit there and plug in every item seperately to make sales, then I guess I would do it - but if there is an easier way, I'd like to know? :)

@ Teraside - know of anyone who could do a design around osCommerce/CubeCart? I've looked at online templates - but quite honestly would prefer a custom design.

As Teraside said, if you want any specific advice, ask me and I can help you out ... I believe we need to help each other out, there are more than enough customers out there, we can all share :p ... which is why I'm going to RAGE with Nivo (We're sharing a 24m2 stand :) ) ... don't bother with the bigger players though, I have been told off many times when asking for advice ... business is business :p.

A big word of advice though ... do not use www.estart.co.za ... they have a great designer, but they have useless service ... took them 5 months to complete my site, when it should've taken 1 ... I paid my deposit in October and was promised a site by end of november, I got it on the last day of Feb when I threatened to take my business elsewhere. Now there are still many bugs remaining, and he refuses to reply to my e-mails, so I am stuck trying to fix these bugs on my own, with little experience with the how CRE Loaded works as opposed to osCommerce (The template system is confusing).

In terms of the manual importing, its painful and frustrating, but once you have a full pricelist in, its not so bad ... I upload all the pricelists, and I have a school student uploading the pictures and descriptions ... although I have made excel macros that will upload pricelists for me, however I have to upload each manufacturer and category separately which is what takes forever ... I wish I knew how to program well enough to create an AI script that will detect categories and manufacturers ... but its not gonna happen any time soon :p

In terms of e-commerce systems, Magento is awesome, and I would like to move to it someday because it is very advanced, however at the same time, it is still too new and hence a bit more time consuming ... for example, if you use CREloaded or osCommerce, you can download a program called osCommerce Manager or MagneticOne store manager which speeds up a lot of the things, whereas with Magento this is not available yet, so everything is website based ... and also, it is lacking many features I believe to be essential, and there are not enough contributions out there. Unless you can afford to pay a website programmer to create these features in Magento for you, give it another year or so ... once these features become available, and there is a successful script to convert from CRE Loaded, I will then make the move ... it is an awesome system.

Hope this helps a bit.

Regards

Itai
 
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Thanks a lot Itai, you really did help a lot there :)

I too believe working together is always the best way to go. So check your PM @ some point tonight, there should be something from me regarding ideas :)

I really don't mind paying someone to do all the importing of pics/descriptions etc. How much do you pay this guy in school? (PM me) - and with regards to price updates, do you do that manually once a week or something? on EVERY SINGLE product? or is it done automatically?

Thanks again for all the help/advice.

Jaryd
 
Many big players,never help you for free, they would actually charge you for the advice, you lucky on myBB, many people work together to help each other :) ..


May your business flourish with a great achievement from sales to various other range of products on your catalog :
 
Haha, yes.. very friendly indeed :) thanks Rich. Did you notice that:

1) we predicted the same score for rugby and

2) we were the closest.. any idea on our prize(s)? :p
 
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