need opinion on ccTV bundle

[marine1]

I know for price it won't be amazing but is it worth buying for home security?
I am mainly worried about cameras

http://www.esquire-shop.co.za/ProductDescription.aspx?id=1052386

Thanks

 

[biometrics]

If they are visible from the street it may act as a deterent.

Most cctv footage I've seen is to low res or to dark to be useful in identification.

So you'll need to get high quality equipment to be useful imo.

 

[marine1]

That's the problem I guess you are right. Same issue I have at the moment really. I guess you really need high res cameras

 

[biometrics]

That's the problem I guess you are right. Same issue I have at the moment really. I guess you really need high res cameras

Just a quick scan of the specs reveals "420 tv lines" at the end. Is that the native res? That's not great.

 

[FNfal]

420 is low res but the package looks ok for a starter package
Nice to have you don't have to walk around the house to see WTF is happening
and that thing has built in alarm zones
surprised some people messing around my place with a similar set up
you could always buy the cam they have on special and a USB recored

 

[stricken]

i would only go for network IP cameras imho. more expensive but you can use any PC/Laptop as the DVR.

 

[bdt]

^^ indeed. And, now that airCams are available (or will be when the BLOODY new shipments clear), they're not even wildly expensive. And, frankly, it's WAY easier to do the job via IP: none of that sodding POWAX cable (at best), and RF connectors, and analog signal-path loss. And that's before we get into the question of [-]being able to process the video[/-] analytics, something pretty much absent in the analog world.

 

[marine1]

Aircam??

 

[Ipwn 4]

i would only go for network IP cameras imho. more expensive but you can use any PC/Laptop as the DVR.

There is also the option of using a DVR card to set up a pc-based DVR which are becoming more and more popular. I supply a security company who have stopped buying stand alone DVR's all together.

Pc based gives you the best of both worlds as you don't need to buy IP cameras

 

[D3x!]

There is also the option of using a DVR card to set up a pc-based DVR which are becoming more and more popular. I supply a security company who have stopped buying stand alone DVR's all together.

Pc based gives you the best of both worlds as you don't need to buy IP cameras

Sorry what? Even if it is a DVR card it is still analogue cameras attached to it. PCI DVR cards running on windows pc's can be very unstable.

 

[bdt]

Aircam??

airCam, aye:

 

[bdt]

Pc based gives you the best of both worlds as you don't need to buy IP cameras

Sure, let's make the feed from every camera subject to SPOF in the form of a nice unstable PC that has to have OS (which needs paying for), camera software which, unless you pay for something decent is likely to be kark but mainly needs paying for and is subject to "hey, there's a spare PC lying around, someone has to be using it". Oh, and if something should happen to said PC, GFL ("good luck") getting things up again quickly.

Or you could have each camera independently on the network where the the only SPOF is going to be a switch. And those are available just about anywhere for not very much at all. (at least on the SOHO scale at any rate)

 

[Ipwn 4]

Sure, let's make the feed from every camera subject to SPOF in the form of a nice unstable PC that has to have OS (which needs paying for), camera software which, unless you pay for something decent is likely to be kark but mainly needs paying for and is subject to "hey, there's a spare PC lying around, someone has to be using it". Oh, and if something should happen to said PC, GFL ("good luck") getting things up again quickly.

Or you could have each camera independently on the network where the the only SPOF is going to be a switch. And those are available just about anywhere for not very much at all. (at least on the SOHO scale at any rate)

And the cost of a network of IP cameras? I've done both, wasn't saying the pc based DVR method is better, just pointed it out as an alternative.

 

[D3x!]

And the cost of a network of IP cameras? I've done both, wasn't saying the pc based DVR method is better, just pointed it out as an alternative.

i will take an Embedded DVR over a PCI DVR card most days, unless you are talking decent cards with decent software, but then you are looking at double/triple the cost.

 

[ElectroMan]

Marine 1, it depends upon whether you require clarity, better recording ability or both, just IMO that IT distributors tend to go for the cheaper solution than security distributors.
We operate from Midrand (16 years); if you need a quote, PM me?

 

[bdt]

And the cost of a network of IP cameras? I've done both, wasn't saying the pc based DVR method is better, just pointed it out as an alternative.

A year ago the 'IP camera is way too expensive' would have carried more weight ..the world we're in now, somewhat less so. And you're right about alternative, it's just not one I am inclined to put in front of a client is all.

 

[Ipwn 4]

A year ago the 'IP camera is way too expensive' would have carried more weight ..the world we're in now, somewhat less so. And you're right about alternative, it's just not one I am inclined to put in front of a client is all.

I agree 100% with you, I have personally used IP cameras countless times and they are by far a better option. I currently supply a security consultant/PI with pc based DVR's and set the pc's up as a server through his clients networks. The solution as a whole works but isn't ideal... If you can afford it rather go for an IP camera system as the integration into any home network is seamless.