Negative and slide scanning

koffiejunkie said:
How much time do you spend per photo in Photoshop?
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I don't do the restoration myself but it takes 2-3 hours per photo. That's just for scratch removal and reconstruction of the destroyed areas. Sometimes even longer if the picture has a lot of significance. Contast enhancement, we haven't started yet.

Have about 3000 of these old pics and a few from the 19th century and early 20th but those are developed already, just need scan in and fix up. :)

I could not get the 4400 to work with MacOS X. I got it to work by VMWARE Fusion and Windows XP
but that sucked. It was sloow and the thing would crash after a handful of photos.
 
PeterCH said:
dust removal and colour corrections settings to OFF
and use Photoshop CS4 to do all of that including scratch removal and restoration.
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The best way is to use a scanner with inferred dust and scratch removal. Once it's finnished scanning it shines IR light through the film. Where the light gets blocked, by dust or a scratch, it uses interpolation to fix it. My 8800f has this, and it's cheap scanner. It works brilliantly. The most well known system is Digital ICE.

PeterCH said:
BTW what do you chaps think of this Hasselblad Drum scanner
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It's a common misconception that those are drum scanners. They are not.
B&H said:
A vertical optical system allows the CCD... blah blah blah
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With a drum scanner your film spins around a drum. A light then gets shinned through the film and a photo multiplier tube, a type of vacuum tube, captures it, not a chip. It's a bit like Vidicon. These tubes are much more sensitive to light than any chip, and that is why you have a greater dynamic range. Pop Photography once scanned some consumer 35mm negs and found that it rendered more detail than the 1DsMKIII. Now, just imagine scanning 120 like that. :)

Hasselblad's marketing department has everyone confused. That's their job. :D
 
I have an Epson 1670 that I have used to scan slides with, its an OK machine (about 2 years old tho) but its software is as tempremental as can be and the results are variable. Some slides it scans well, some are a waste of time, as far as I can see, I must admit I havent really been successful with it so am interested to see whether anybody here has any solutions that work that may not involve using the scanner. My digital camera cant take any lens adapters and I did try projecting the slides against the wall and photographing that! all to no avail.
 
ldmelsa said:
The best way is to use a scanner with inferred dust and scratch removal. Once it's finnished scanning it shines IR light through the film. Where the light gets blocked, by dust or a scratch, it uses interpolation to fix it. My 8800f has this, and it's cheap scanner. It works brilliantly. The most well known system is Digital ICE.
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What is it called - IR dust removal? Sounds nice.


It's a common misconception that those are drum scanners. They are not.

With a drum scanner your film spins around a drum. A light then gets shinned through the film and a photo multiplier tube, a type of vacuum tube, captures it, not a chip. It's a bit like Vidicon. These tubes are much more sensitive to light than any chip, and that is why you have a greater dynamic range. Pop Photography once scanned some consumer 35mm negs and found that it rendered more detail than the 1DsMKIII. Now, just imagine scanning 120 like that. :)

Hasselblad's marketing department has everyone confused. That's their job. :D
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Well I only read from the description. I was looking for a scanner to import and found that as the most expensive on on B&H. I'm not looking to import a scanner as expensive and found that the Epson 200 works great.

Your explanation of the IR thing looks good. You say the Canon 8800 has this.
It's just a PITA that the best we can get in SA is a Canon 8800. Otherwise you have to order online in a local store and it takes 2 weeks with a huge markup (100%).

I couldn't even buy PS CS4 in any local store. Getting it online in an SA store was about R3000 more expensive than getting it abroad from an authorised Adobe reseller (including tax and shipping).
 
ldmelsa said:
The best way is to use a scanner with inferred dust and scratch removal.
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That's why I'm going for the Plustek 7500 AI and not the SE. Of their scanners that has Mac support (most of them don't), this is the only on that has the infrared stuff.
 
Peter,

the epson v700 is the best flatbed scanner for the money
even if you can find the older epson 4990, it's great too
they have ICE

for 35mm, there are dedicated scanners (see KJ's post above)
however, these epsons are not bad at 35mm
 
ldmelsa said:
Peter,

the epson v700 is the best flatbed scanner for the money
even if you can find the older epson 4990, it's great too
they have ICE

for 35mm, there are dedicated scanners (see KJ's post above)
however, these epsons are not bad at 35mm
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Thanks. I've see that PcMall has it for R7250. I also read that the
V750 has anti-reflective surface, does that matter for negative scanning?
Is the extra $$$ worth it or is this just a gimmick.

Thanks :)
 
PeterCH said:
dedicated neg scanner
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and slide

but 35mm only

PeterCH said:
or is this just a gimmick.
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I think it's for very old buggered up film

PeterCH said:
How does that rate vs the V700 Epson?
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It's leaps and bounds ahead of the v700 for 35mm
5400ii is a dedicated 35mm scanner - these scanners have the ability to scan the very small 35mm area
the v700 is great for medium and large format, but 35mm is not as sharp as the dedicated 35mm scanners like the 5400ii, coolscan v...
read these 18 pages and you'll know everything about v700
http://www.photo-i.co.uk/Reviews/interactive/Epson V700/page_1.htm
 
ldmelsa said:
It's leaps and bounds ahead of the v700 for 35mm
5400ii is a dedicated 35mm scanner - these scanners have the ability to scan the very small 35mm area
the v700 is great for medium and large format, but 35mm is not as sharp as the dedicated 35mm scanners like the 5400ii, coolscan v...
read these 18 pages and you'll know everything about v700
http://www.photo-i.co.uk/Reviews/interactive/Epson V700/page_1.htm
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Thanks.

So I should source the Konica Minolta then seeing as we have tons of old negatives (1960s and prior) and tons of stuff from the 80-90s. It seems to no longer be in production as one site has it out of stock while another has one refurbished model (www.froogle.com search).

The pricing I've seen for the KM is similar to the V700/750. I don't need a better scanner for ordinary office like scans (have 3) :)
 
Just a quick word (my Internet speeds are atrocious at the mo): if you're into restorations, it doesn't matter how good the scanner is, you're going to have to put work into it. I've done some serious restoration work in the past, and sometimes I've switched off the Digital Ice as it messed around with the clarity of my starting image. To add to what ld has said, the older Epson 48xx flatbed scanner also produced some good results for me, but unfortunately, only 35mm (not mine though).

Unfortunately, my Website with all my restorations is no longer running, but here are a few that I've put on Smugmug.
 
[Aside]Thanks to Bwana for splitting this off from the other thread[/aside]
 
PeterCH said:
Thanks.

So I should source the Konica Minolta then seeing as we have tons of old negatives (1960s and prior) and tons of stuff from the 80-90s. It seems to no longer be in production as one site has it out of stock while another has one refurbished model (www.froogle.com search).

The pricing I've seen for the KM is similar to the V700/750. I don't need a better scanner for ordinary office like scans (have 3) :)
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the Nikon Coolscan V ED is very good too
my local shop is able to get it
 

Happy new year!
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A slide taken long before I was born.
Fuji SP3000 scanner.​

Computer trouble at the moment.
See you guys in a couple of days time. :(
 
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koffiejunkie said:
Very nice!



Your copy looks identical to me. But I do see a very very slight purple tint in the water at the bottom of the image. But only after you mentioned it.

Happy new year everyone!
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It should look identical if you're using Safari or FF3 with ICC support turned on.
 
Bwana's pic looks seriously purple in the water. ld's pic looks ok to me, somewhat oversaturated, but I can live with it.

Hope you all have a nice new year!

Fortunately, we had a monster storm around midnight, which meant very little fireworks - hope they don't pop out on another night :(
 
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