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Question of the Day: Oldest working tech or appliance in your house that you refuse to replace?
New 3G / HSDPA Tariffs
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divv
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Unless I have missed it, this is still awaiting an answer?vodacom3g said:
I am on a Nokia 6680 which switches between 3G and (hopefully) EDGE, as opposed to GPRS, I wouldn't like to be paying HSDPA rates for EDGE!....
Thanks
divv
vodacom3g
Vodacom Representative
divv said:
D, yes must still post a reply. Will do so soon. Just got off a plane, on the way to the office....
jarr
Expert Member
whoa... you're checking the forum and posting as you're driving from the airport to the office?!vodacom3g said:
now that's dedication...
vodacom3g
Vodacom Representative
jarr said:whoa... you're checking the forum and posting as you're driving from the airport to the office?!
now that's dedication...
JasJar!
jarr
Expert Member
i confess to having done this with my little 6230i and opera mini...vodacom3g said:
not the best of road safety practices, though
never!ic said:v3g's dedication is also a compulsion to help forumites, I also suspect that v3g is addicted to the forum like so many of us - if you check the forum more than once a day without fail, you are probably addicted - do not seek help.
Mams
Senior Member
v3g:i know im mixin threads...but what browser are u using on ur jasjar?im using opera as i found it 2 format best(like now im on jasjar)also does ur jasjar software version allow u to use 3g only profile?im using that now from home from a non 3g area and am getting a connection which normally needs data card +antenna on window burglar bar to get 3g connection
vodacom3g
Vodacom Representative
Mams said:
I.E, Opera and Netfront. But I find Netfront the best. Opera keeps on giving the wrong characters and I've not had time to try and figure it out.
I recently upgraded the firmware on the JasJar and now its radio performance is very poor. Won't do proper cell handover....
vodacom3g
Vodacom Representative
ic said:v3g's dedication is also a compulsion to help forumites, I also suspect that v3g is addicted to the forum like so many of us - if you check the forum more than once a day without fail, you are probably addicted - do not seek help
Not to mention that the forum is a near-real-time indicator of network and system performance. It's like having an extra bunch of skilled techies in the field.
Very handy!
Diplos
Senior Member
diabolus said:
I get the feeling, with all the mutual admiration and back-slapping regarding means of accessing this forum, diabolus, that it is only you, me and Tony_GSI who are actually concerned with the bizarreness of Vodacom's 'cheaper' rates....
I happened to be in Canal Walk yesterday and went to both the Vodacom and Vodacare shops yesterday to enquire as to the availability of the old 3G-only cards. Result, zero availability. Then I asked a staff member what happened to all the old swapped cards - he said they were being offered for sale to staff members...
So, what we actually appear to have is a cheaper rate that anyone who doesn't have the old card (ie all new subscribers, like me, who were only offered the HSDPA card and anyone who used the free swap-out) CAN"T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF!
But hey, that's unimportant - my buddy managed to post on this forum while riding a unicycle against traffic on the N1 - WOW!!!!
Prometheus
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It's called nepotism.Diplos said:
Solution:
Tell them you demand to switch to the new tariff. If they tell you they don't have any old 3G cards then tell them that's their problem. Either get me an old card or put me on the new tariff with the new card.
vodacom3g
Vodacom Representative
Prometheus said:
I can't fault Prometheus' argument above....
The cards are for customers, staff can buy them like anyone else.
Let me find out where the cards are in the channel. They *should* be in the shops.
Just as a heads-up, we kept the 3G cards back to first log and identify them properly. There was a situation where people swapped a 3G card for HSDPA and attempted to swap the same card again....
To stop this all cards was first pulled back into the warehouse for identification.
jarr
Expert Member
yah, okay, so i derailed the thread... it happensDiplos said:
vodacom3g
Vodacom Representative
ic said:how is that possible when the old card is no longer in the person's possession, but rather in the possession of the retail store...
I believe you figured than one out....
But let's say we immediately sold the 3G card again. The client would buy a 3G card at store A and them run across to store B and swap it.....
Prometheus
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Ahem, I actually thought of that little scenario which would be easy to do at the East Rand Mall which has both stores A and B. But I thought that they would handle that by looking at the invoice date.vodacom3g said:
Diplos
Senior Member
Eish Vodacom!?
As a new data subscriber (mid-may, received card) I was not offered a 3G-only card - I suspect that these were not available due to the possibility of messing with the HSDPA card swap-out.
So, despite actually wanting a 3G card, I was sold (yes I had to pay R300) an all-singing HSDPA card. Now that I want to migrate to the cheaper rates I understand I may have to kiss my R300 goodbye and settle for a refurbished 3G-only card (refurbished!? do you clean them with Mr Min or what?).
Neat little deal if you are a Vodacom retailer - R300 for squat.
I don't really get why you are differentiating your pricing for data based on speed anyway? The attractiveness of cellphone data has always been that you pay only for the data - not time or speed. Telkom doesn't seem to get this either - perhaps it's their shareholding in VC that is responsible for these decisions.
As a new data subscriber (mid-may, received card) I was not offered a 3G-only card - I suspect that these were not available due to the possibility of messing with the HSDPA card swap-out.
So, despite actually wanting a 3G card, I was sold (yes I had to pay R300) an all-singing HSDPA card. Now that I want to migrate to the cheaper rates I understand I may have to kiss my R300 goodbye and settle for a refurbished 3G-only card (refurbished!? do you clean them with Mr Min or what?).
Neat little deal if you are a Vodacom retailer - R300 for squat.
I don't really get why you are differentiating your pricing for data based on speed anyway? The attractiveness of cellphone data has always been that you pay only for the data - not time or speed. Telkom doesn't seem to get this either - perhaps it's their shareholding in VC that is responsible for these decisions.
Diplos said:
The retailers were fighting the R299 pay-in just as hard (not justifiable taking into account the FREE swapouts), and for the record, they (the dealers) don't make a cent from that R299. Vodacom support is based on cost of the product, less client pay-in, equals support paid to dealer. The idea is to bring dealers to a break-even, so they don't profit nor lose on a deal.
Vodacom structure these deals on dealsheet numbers the dealers must use for activation, and the dealers are then paid based on that dealsheet number.
However, I did notice that if you dial 082 155, on the recorded messages, there is one message that says if you paid R299 for an HSDPA contract, please press (the number) and your account will be credited with this amount in the next month.
Diplos
Senior Member
3G4me said:
It's not the R300 per se but the fact that in my case the payment was like a rental - I pay it, use a card for 4 weeks, swap for an older card and thats the end of the R300... Could someone not have told me at the time?
Diplos said:
Call 082 155, they will create a log for the R299 to be credited to your account. So you don't lose... if you paid it because you took the line whilst that deal was active, they will refund it. That is my understanding.
MrGray
Honorary Master
It doesn't really matter how unnecessarily complicated or confusing they make their pricing, at R599 per 1GB and R1497 per 3GB it remains the most expensive data in the country (barring MTN - I haven't checked their bundle prices).