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bdt
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The latter two suggestions raise a point: what are your/her views on going 17" on that laptop? ...though not, it seems, on the 5500 CPU, they seem stuck on the 4000-series.
Progenix Oj101
Dealer
Johnatan56
Honorary Master
Because the i7-4720HQ is more powerful per core and has more cores.
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-5500U-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4720HQ
The intel U series is for longer battery life, if you need that then yes, go for the 5xxx series.
If you are fine with ~3+ hours battery life on normal tasks and about ~1 hour when rendering (which doesn't actually happen that often) then the i7-4720HQ is better. You will most likely be at a workplace with a plug when working, so that issue is moot. Time saved > power saving if it is work critical. I have no issue with the maxing out of the RAM/getting a 512GB SSD, I actually recommended doing that.
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Progenix Oj101
Dealer
That doesn't make sense, the Quadro is GREAT for animation. Have a look at these videos to see the performance difference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9C3G5jUbMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ3oEZEP0bs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOcFBk6l7-o
There's a reason they exist.
bdt
Executive Member
..schooled right there. Ta.
Johnatan56
Honorary Master
[XC] Oj101;15557194 said:
Yes, they are great. If you have the money to spend of course do it, but for most of us it isn't worth it.
What you pay for in quadro's is the driver support, the guarantee that every driver you use will have no issues whatsoever.
Using the GTX series is better in the sense that it is cheaper, has more CUDA cores/memory for it's price resulting in better performance and can be used for other things as well. Unless you are running e.g. a rendering server or something, most of the time it is better to have a GTX card.
Also, most rendering, especially 3D animation, is more processor dependant + the amount of graphics memory available. E.g. Maya does not use the GPU/use it well till the iteration that was released this year, the improvement is still only ~10% in total with a Quadro card, if that, depending on what aspects you are rendering. You still see the improvement even with a GTX card.
EDIT: Usually the GTX cards are better/faster in rendering (most of the time), but sometimes result in crashes/driver issues with are immediately fixed in Quadro's case.
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You're a good man.
Progenix Oj101
Dealer
Did you watch the video? There are cases where a GeForce card looks as though it's standing still next to a Quadro - those three videos highlight the performance difference.
Also if you're doing a long render, ECC is basically a requirement. One wrong bit can ruin your render, imagine if it happens on day four of a render...
Johnatan56
Honorary Master
[XC] Oj101;15557340 said:
Apologies, I am still looking at them.
EDIT: 1st video; Okay, this is totally biased due to the fact that it is from Nvidia's view. Secondly this is over 4 years old, so those benchmarks are meh.
2nd video: I have never seen my brother lag like that will creating/rendering complex models, though running on an AMD R9 290 and not a GTX (he also uses Maya Autodesk 2015).
3rd video: you linked the 1st video again.
Agreed, the drivers are important, Nvidia purposefully try and cripple the GTX cards. Thing is, most of the rendering is still done by the processor.
So processor > graphics card in terms of importance.
EDIT2: Also in the OP's case, a Quadro is a total overkill, a GTX would be the better solution due to also being able to do other things with the laptop if they wanted to.
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zamedic
Well-Known Member
Decisions, Decisions...
As part of my job, I spend some time with Creative Designers, and they all swear by their Macs and how well it works with Adobe. This is the only reason I initially considered it.
Since alot of my frustrations around ripping out a HDD and placing in a SSD have been addressed with the help of you guys, its now a matter of the debates above. Thanks everyone for your input, I am following it and taking in all the points mentioned.
As part of my job, I spend some time with Creative Designers, and they all swear by their Macs and how well it works with Adobe. This is the only reason I initially considered it.
Since alot of my frustrations around ripping out a HDD and placing in a SSD have been addressed with the help of you guys, its now a matter of the debates above. Thanks everyone for your input, I am following it and taking in all the points mentioned.
Progenix Oj101
Dealer
I have a friend who works at one of the larger advertising agencies as a creative director, they allow their staff to choose between a Macbook Pro or Windows based laptop. There's about a 50/50 split between the staff, one is certainly not better than the other. They're not paying for the devices so they choose whichever they personally prefer. You're paying, so you may as well go for whatever offers the best value for money?
bdt
Executive Member
The Mac/PC thing ITO 'creatives' is so much less of a thing now than it was back when. But what IS relevant is extracting the max long term value out of the kit you spend on and here's a definite guarantee: you can't do squat to upgrade the new Apples. But you can, down the line, add SSD (whose capacities are apparently going up like a homesick angel while prices come down) and quite likely RAM on a PC-based box. And that's before you get into thinking in pro/business terms ITO warranty and support.
zamedic
Well-Known Member
Excellent, so its starting to look like I will settle for a nice powerful laptop, with a nice chunk of memory. I will swap out the internal HDD for a SSD, throw in a external for backup and storage.
Chevron
Serial breaker of phones
MrGray
Honorary Master
Buy a gaming notebook. Yes, they are big with crappy battery life but if it works for gaming it will work really well for anything Adobe throws at it - e.g. Acer Nitro V17 - R24k - i7 with 512GB SSD https://www.incredible.co.za/nb-acer-vnitro-i7-4720hq-16-256-2tb-gfx-17
Johnatan56
Honorary Master
Why do you recommend that ASUS? It doesn't even have a dedicated graphics card?
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Something is wrong with that spec sheet. In the name of it it says that it has a GTX970 (no M dictating that it is mobile?), but when looking at the spec sheet there is no mention of the card at all. Something fishy with that laptop.
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Chevron
Serial breaker of phones
1. He was considering an Apple so gaming is not a priority.
2. Girls prefer good looking laptops over good performing laptops.