New licensing system: The Point System

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Details of South Africa 's tough new measures to remove dangerous drivers from the road by suspending or revoking their licences have been revealed.

The new system will be introduced in Pretoria on September 1 and then extended throughout the country.

Every driver will be awarded 12 points. If you lose those points through 12 demerits in a year, your licence will be suspended. After three suspensions, your licence will be cancelled.

So strict are the new regulations that you could have your driver's licence suspended immediately if, for example:
· You're caught speeding.
· You're not wearing a seatbelt.
· Your car's tail lights are not in working order.
· You left your licence at home.

And in addition to losing your licence, you will be slapped with a stiff fine.

National Transport Department official Ndivhuwo Mabaya said each motorist would be allocated 12 points at the beginning of each year.

If he or she remained penalty-free at the end of the year, the next year would kick off with an additional 12 points plus a bonus point - a total of 25.

This process would be repeated every year, with the result that good drivers would be rewarded by building up a bank of bonus points. Conversely, points will be deducted for offences committed during each year.

However, don't think you can build up, say, five years worth of brownie points as a safeguard against any serious traffic offence you might commit in the future - such as drunken driving, excessive speeding or running over a pedestrian while you're inebriated.

In the case of major traffic violations, the law will continue to take its normal course and you will end up in court to face the music.

And, if found guilty, you're almost certain to lose all your carefully hoarded points as well.

Traffic officials also stress that the entire system is in a trial-and-error development phase and will be tweaked and fine-tuned continuously as the need arises in the years ahead.

The new demerit system, based on a highly successful Australian model, has been made possible by the introduction of the card-format driver's licences which enable traffic authorities to store the record of every driver.

Demerits will be rated according to a unit scale.

For example, if a motorist is found with an unregistered vehicle, he will be docked two demerit points from his 12 points and get 10 penalty units which means a fine of R500.

Not having your driver's licence with you also costs two demerits and a R500 fine.

If you are caught not wearing a seatbelt, you will get one demerit and pay a R250 fine.

Traffic infringements that will cost drivers three demerits include not stopping at a stop sign and overloading by more than 25 percent.

Overloaders will be penalised by 25 penalty units - a fine of R1 250.

Those caught speeding repeatedly will be especially hit with hefty fines and demerits.
· If you are caught doing up to 20 percent over the speed limit, you will get a fine of R250, but no demerit points - for example speeding up to 72km/h in a 60km/h zone or up to 144km/h in a 120km/h zone.
· If you are 21 percent to 30 percent over the speed limit you will get one demerit point and a R500 fine - for example travelling up to 78km/h in a 60km/h zone or up to 156km/h in a 120km/h zone.
· If you are 31 percent to 45 percent over the speed limit you get two demerit points and a R750 fine - for example up to 87km/h in a 60km/h zone or 174km/h in a 120km/h zone.
· If you are 46 percent to 60 percent over the speed limit you are docked three demerit points and fined R1 250 - for example doing up to 96km/h in a 60km/h zone or up to 192km/h in a 120km/h zone.
· Doing more than 60 percent over the limit will mean the driver will go straight to court where the magistrate will determine the fine - and four demerit points will be deducted.

Motorists who have not converted to the new card format have already lost their licences and will have to be re-tested if they want to drive again

So what are your thoughts on the new system????????????:eek:
 
Was about to ask which September 1st because they've been harping on about this forever. Then I saw the date of the article:
May 17 2003 at 11:27AM
:D
 
Dunno man, they've been talking about this since at least 2002. And with the eNATIS chaos I doubt it'll be implemented any time soon. No need to panic yet, it's probably just another case of IBIWISI :)

But my thoughts on it, while the intentions might seem good, it might not be effective. It still seems to place an emphasis on speedsters, but how would they penalise taxi, bus and truck drivers when they're having a tough time pulling them over as it is?
 
Let the family and friends of government members tendering for the spot in the sun begin.LOL
 
The system will be asymmetrically enforced, because were taxi drivers to be subject to this system then the transport backbone of the country would break down.

I imagine there's about to be an increase in the number of 'spot fines' paid to traffic officials.
 
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Admit it - you didnt look at the date of the original article did you :D

IMO the points system has its merits. There are some people who clearly should have been removed from the roads ages ago but have skated by just paying the fine.

I could not find something todate but I recieved the e-mail yesterday. Just refreshing everyones memory.:o
 
Dunno man, they've been talking about this since at least 2002. And with the eNATIS chaos I doubt it'll be implemented any time soon. No need to panic yet, it's probably just another case of IBIWISI :)

But my thoughts on it, while the intentions might seem good, it might not be effective. It still seems to place an emphasis on speedsters, but how would they penalise taxi, bus and truck drivers when they're having a tough time pulling them over as it is?

And how do you take points off someone's licence when they don't have one?
 
I think the bribes will just become more expensive - will have to check the new measures against the current bribe index. :)
 
This method will cause so many problems for the "decent"normal driver. Not the pigs that drive the taxis.
In Australia there is a group of drivers that have been nailed by a "speed trap"camera, leading to some losing their licenses. They are challenging it in the courts. If I lose my license I cannot do my work. Take George for example. I have never seen so many cameras. Almost every robot has one, this is obviously there to nail the holiday makers and fill the coffers of the municipality.

So I foresee a system as this will just punish those that are not the real cause of the problems.

Nou ja.. I can already foresee the replies.. "Just drive correctly then".. My point is if the traps are there too "trap you" you will get caught.. Look as Storms River N2. You hardly know what the speed is on that road, because it changes every few kilometer's. So after going thou that area at say 100km/h you will be garuanteed a fine in the post. Thus you have to travel the whole route at 80 to be safe. With a 18 weeler stuck behind you!! And then you still get a fine because you missed the 60 zone of 1 km!
Thus every hidden sneaky trap will cost you points.. That is unfair.
 
In a country where it is admitted that we have many unlicensed drivers who is going to care about losing their license? They will become another unlicensed driver.

Speed cameras are first about generating income. Cape Town recently announced new regulations on cameras, but so far I haven't seen them implemented.
 
Another wonderful law that won't / can't be enforced. How many drivers do you see out there talking on thier cell phones while driving?
 
We're great at making more laws we can't enforce, rather than enforcing what we have. The latest is the one on flicking cigarettes out the window -- that should work at least as well as the one against talking on your cellphone...

*sigh*
 
This method will cause so many problems for the "decent"normal driver. Not the pigs that drive the taxis.
In Australia there is a group of drivers that have been nailed by a "speed trap"camera, leading to some losing their licenses. They are challenging it in the courts. If I lose my license I cannot do my work. Take George for example. I have never seen so many cameras. Almost every robot has one, this is obviously there to nail the holiday makers and fill the coffers of the municipality.

So I foresee a system as this will just punish those that are not the real cause of the problems.

Nou ja.. I can already foresee the replies.. "Just drive correctly then".. My point is if the traps are there too "trap you" you will get caught.. Look as Storms River N2. You hardly know what the speed is on that road, because it changes every few kilometer's. So after going thou that area at say 100km/h you will be garuanteed a fine in the post. Thus you have to travel the whole route at 80 to be safe. With a 18 weeler stuck behind you!! And then you still get a fine because you missed the 60 zone of 1 km!
Thus every hidden sneaky trap will cost you points.. That is unfair.

They always tell you when you are coming into a lower speed zone but never seem to indicate when you are out of that zone and the speed limit no longer applies.
 
Maybe taking unroadworthy taxis, taxi drivers without licenses, etc, etc, etc off the road first - if there is a taxi collision then many more ppl will die than one pedestrian and one driver!
 
If you don't break traffic rules then this should not bother you. I need to start sticking to the speed limit :D
 
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