New software issue found in Boeing 737 Max

[Bradley Prior]

New software issue found in Boeing 737 Max

Boeing has identified a new software flaw in the grounded 737 Max that will require additional work, possibly further delaying the plane’s return to service.

The company alerted the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration and is notifying customers and its suppliers, it said in an emailed statement. [Bloomberg]

 

[MrGray]

I can’t see how any airline will ever be able to convince passengers to fly on one of these again, no matter how much work has been done improving the software. At best, they’ll be good for cargo.

 

[Pineapple Smurf]

are those things flying around on Windows 98?

 

[geezer]

Or maybe even worse, Windows ME?

 

[wingnut771]

Or maybe even worse, Windows ME?

no, vista

 

[Gordon_R]

Doesn't really justify a whole new thread, but this is MyBB...

WSJ version. Link may be paywalled:

Boeing Finds New Software Problem That Could Complicate 737 MAX’s Return

The plane maker has found a software problem that prevents the 737 MAX’s computers from powering up properly prior to flight, which could complicate the aircraft’s return to service.

www.wsj.com

 

[Geoff.D]

no, vista

are those things flying around on Windows 98?

Or maybe even worse, Windows ME?

no, vista

At this stage, even windows 83 would be better than this rubbish

 

[Gordon_R]

The B737 FCC software runs on an 80286 processor. No Windows at all.

 

[Swa]

no, vista

No, Windows 10.
/runs

 

[Happy Days]

And then Boeing still wants ferry astronauts to the ISS?

 

[MidnightWizard]

The B737 FCC software runs on an 80286 processor. No Windows at all.

Part of the reason why an -- upgrade / update is next to impossible
THAT would need a complete new engineering project -- from scratch !

 

[Prof.Merlin]

I can’t see how any airline will ever be able to convince passengers to fly on one of these again, no matter how much work has been done improving the software. At best, they’ll be good for cargo.

I don’t even see how they would convince a pilot to fly it.

 

[|tera|]

They halted all production of it and they won't make anymore new ones.
So this plane is already a rock in the clouds.

 

[r00igev@@r]

In the sixties they went to the moon with sliderules and calculators...

 

[Pineapple Smurf]

The B737 FCC software runs on an 80286 processor. No Windows at all.

theres an old 286 motherboard flying the plane around?
that explains the problem

 

[Swa]

theres an old 286 motherboard flying the plane around?
that explains the problem

Not exactly. The "motherboard" would be new as will the processor. Many people don't know it but the 80x86 is still in mainstream use and being manufactured. Even an Athlon would be an incredibly complex processor so for simple applications an 80286 or equivalent is used which is a lot simpler to implement. Also doesn't mean it's running at the same speed it used to.

It's worrying that engineers can't get it working right with software that's bug free.

 

[Pineapple Smurf]

Not exactly. The "motherboard" would be new as will the processor. Many people don't know it but the 80x86 is still in mainstream use and being manufactured. Even an Athlon would be an incredibly complex processor so for simple applications an 80286 or equivalent is used which is a lot simpler to implement. Also doesn't mean it's running at the same speed it used to.

It's worrying that engineers can't get it working right with software that's bug free.

Awesome
Thanx for clearing that up
For a moment here I thought a 286 motherboard with 4 megabytes RAM running DOS 6.22 and WIN 3.11 was roaming the sky keeping passengers safe

 

[etienne_marais]

Code is in Fortran, don't misplace that comma...

 

[Swa]

Code is in Fortran, don't misplace that comma...

I'm assuming this is sarcasm. Specialised applications like this code is usually required to be in assembler to avoid compiler bugs.

 

[etienne_marais]

I'm assuming this is sarcasm. Specialised applications like this code is usually required to be in assembler to avoid compiler bugs.

Yes, sarcasm with a hint of something that happened to NASA in the past.