New System Advice Pls

[cyberarmy]

The MB is ok. Those P35`s are solid. Not the best performers if you look to the x38/48 but for your buck, I think it has the best bang.

Remember, that if you go with 4 Gig you have to go to a 64Bit OS. It will work with a 32Bit but you lose +- 500mb of it. 32 can’t allocate that last +-500mb.

Then. I will also go for the ATI cards. They tend to have better image quality.
Then, if you can scrape the cash in, try to get rather a Quadro card. They are hell of a lot more expensive but worth your while when your going into the hole desktop publishing thing. Look at something like this:

PNY Quadro Fx370 - for professional 3D applications , hardware OpenGL 2.1+ directX 10 , support HPDR + HDCP , Pci-E 16x , 2.88 billion texels/sec , 66 million triangles/sec , 64bit 256mb DDR2 ( transfer rate : 6.4gb/sec ) , 12 pixel shader engine , 16 x RG FSAA , 1dvi + 1 x Dual-Link DVi + d-sub connector + s-video out - upto 3840x2400 on each display - retail pack -

Then Monitors. Go for something with the better contrast. It is not as much the dot pitch on the LDC the mess about, it’s the colour reproduction. Most monitors you wil get it right if you buy a colour calibrator. On the LG side. Go for something like this LG L1953T-BF 19" LCD, SXGA, 1280 x 1024, 5ms, Contrast 5000:1, DVI- Their colour is quite accurate. The Samsung are nice, also good colour.

Look at these reviews of monitors. They do it quite good.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/display/24inch-2.html

Here you will see at witch type of panel you should look at. NOT THE GLOSSY STUFF! if I remember correctly!

Dig around on that site, there are some other reviews of monitors somewhere there. You can also check out http://www.tomshardware.com/us/ and http://www.anandtech.com/ for more reviews of monitors. And…. Google is your friend.

Remember its your money. And that is my 2c

O. PS You say you are gonna get the stuff from Pinnacle. They will also be able to help with the RAM for the notebook. Just go make sure what is the max the norebook can handle. It will all be on HP`s site.

Or get a Nvidia card and use those custom software to mod it to a 'Quadro', more cost effective.

 

[hj2k_x]

Just how graphics-intensive are the applications going to be that you are going to use?

No need to go overboard if they are not going to be too hectic.

 

[Ekhaatvensters]

Fair enough, but if he is going to buy new, and pay like R800 or whatever for a new 8500GT then he may as well pay a bit more and get a 3650..

Why? He is hardly using the graphics card at all. What advantage does the 3650 have over the 8500 or 8400GS if you aren't gaming?

Even if ATI really has better image quality (not in games) then you should still get the cheapest ATI card possible, the 3400 series would be fine.

 

[hj2k_x]

Why? He is hardly using the graphics card at all. What advantage does the 3650 have over the 8500 or 8400GS if you aren't gaming?

Even if ATI really has better image quality (not in games) then you should still get the cheapest ATI card possible, the 3400 series would be fine.

Because the 3650 at least leaves some room to do some gaming if ever the need would arise. Also, the resale will be well in excess of the 8500GT which is already hard to shift 2nd hand.

To me it seems worth shelling out like R200 more to get a much better card.

 

[Creativecontrol]

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Hey all - thanks alot for the feedback, i was looking to the x38 but its around R800 more, and i dont know if i need it, I dont know what it offers me over the p35, i think it can take 1333 ram and some other stuff like 8 channel audio etc.

Yah 64 Vista mmm. Hectic. I see Incredible sell Quads with 4Gb ram running 32bit Os i dont get it?

The PNY sounds awesome, i just dont think that my apps justify something like that, I run Photoshop, Illustrator and Indesign at the same time, I dont render any Maya, or motion type stuff. Its print media stuff.. the files get big but thats all. Im tired of waiting 15 mins at 3 in the morning before my projects are due for a file to render haha.

Yah i read that the lcd's dont have as accurate colour matching as crt's especially the glossy ones, although i like how they look... looks real slick. So im not sure what to do with that, incredible do have many on display - good call...

Xbitlabs have great reviews, thanks...

And ill actually take the notebook with me to pinnacle to see about the ramm...

Thanks.


Its alot of cash to spend on something new, and its been ages since ive bought a new pc, im always building one up from old parts, so this is a big hehe

 

[Creativecontrol]

mobo and screen

thanks all, it will not be used for anything but work. Still not sure on the mobo, spoke to a mate, he says maybe look at the x38 which has ram speed up to 1333, and each ramm chip costs like a grand? Its a a little crazy....? Whereas the p35 ramm is 800mhz and much cheaper, but is it an issue? Looked into the 2232, looks fantastic going into incredible later, do they make a 19 inch in that exact model called like a 1932 hehe. Shot guys.

 

[cyberarmy]

thanks all, it will not be used for anything but work. Still not sure on the mobo, spoke to a mate, he says maybe look at the x38 which has ram speed up to 1333, and each ramm chip costs like a grand? Its a a little crazy....? Whereas the p35 ramm is 800mhz and much cheaper, but is it an issue? Looked into the 2232, looks fantastic going into incredible later, do they make a 19 inch in that exact model called like a 1932 hehe. Shot guys.

It's called 932GW, Can use P35 board and OC your RAM.

 

[hj2k_x]

thanks all, it will not be used for anything but work. Still not sure on the mobo, spoke to a mate, he says maybe look at the x38 which has ram speed up to 1333, and each ramm chip costs like a grand? Its a a little crazy....? Whereas the p35 ramm is 800mhz and much cheaper, but is it an issue? Looked into the 2232, looks fantastic going into incredible later, do they make a 19 inch in that exact model called like a 1932 hehe. Shot guys.

You're not gonna need a board that supports DDR3 RAM just yet. The extra money spent on that could be put to better use somewhere else, or just saved

 

[.Froot.]

thanks, its really tough with so many lcd's out there, appreciate the advice. Any suggestions on the laptop ram? ddr 333 i think??

You do realise you will be paying a pretty penny for that RAM. The price of 333 is really expensive now (just letting you know).

Someone mentioned a widescreen distorting stuff.... pretty much the only thing it can distort is if you put ie a 1024x768 jpeg in a 1680x1050 frame. But that's only if you stretch it to screen size. Nothing else distorts.

 

[Creativecontrol]

thanks

froot-yah i said i was concerned about pixelation compared with a crt for design stuff, bcs i bought a 19" (i think 196lw or something) lg wide non gloss a while ago and it was not clear, but i was running a rubbish graph card.

Hj2, so u rate the p35 is gonna be fine, 800mhz ram - sweet. Its gonna be a gigabyte board now, but still the same chipset. so its the same thing?

Cyberarmy, shot, im gonna check into the size options it looks like a lakka monitor. oc ram, i guess like overclocking it? but im sure 800mhz will be around for a while and will run lakka with the quad 2,5?>

 

[hj2k_x]

Hj2, so u rate the p35 is gonna be fine, 800mhz ram - sweet. Its gonna be a gigabyte board now, but still the same chipset. so its the same thing?

4GB of DDR 2 800 RAM will sort you out one-time. even if you plan on running Vista.

 

[Creativecontrol]

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thanks man, just went to incredible, they have a q6600 "gaming pc" with a q6600 quad processor and nvidia 8600 card 3gb ram (32bit os) 2x500gb hdd? fancy case... 19 900 are they mad?

gees...

anyway...

found some nice lcd's there, the samsung 2232 is sick.. and what u guys think of the hp w2207h?

 

[hj2k_x]

thanks man, just went to incredible, they have a q6600 "gaming pc" with a q6600 quad processor and nvidia 8600 card 3gb ram (32bit os) 2x500gb hdd? fancy case... 19 900 are they mad?

gees...

anyway...

found some nice lcd's there, the samsung 2232 is sick.. and what u guys think of the hp w2207h?

LOL, yeah IC's prebuilt systems are the suck.

I would vote for the 2232GW if it weren't so damn shiny

That HP sounds expensive?

 

[Creativecontrol]

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Yah they are mad bro...
and u never know what ur getting, when they say dual core system, what board what ram etc etc ...

well, i dunno, the samsung is not cheap either, i dunno if the hp will be more, it looks lakka though...

but i dig the samsung looks slick...

 

[Steamroller]

For what you are doing a monitor that has good colour reproduction is a must. Most cheap LCDs have TN panels which are pretty terrible. Viewing angles on TN panels are also a big problem. Changing your head hight up/down will brighten/darken the actual image on screen which is a problem. You want to look at something with a S-IPS panel or like I did a PVA panel. S-IPS is ideal but tend to be a bit expensive. I bought a Samsung 245T(R5000 at IC) and comparing it to my old 19" Acer Widescreen using a TN panel the difference is shocking. No problems with lighter/darker images depending on viewing hight.

Glossy vs Matt, well that depends on the lighting in the room from what I read and I have some experience with a Sony Vaio. The glossy screen is a nightmare if you have bright light "spots" in the room, things like sun shining into the room etc. The reflections become extremele annoying.

 

[Creativecontrol]

yo steamroller-Thanks man, im worried about the glare issue, jus staring at a crt all day is tiring on the eyes, and i dont like the idea of spending cash like this on a non gloss lcd. im looking at the 932/2032/2232gw Samsungs, as ppl have said on here...

Thanks man, its tricky making a choice hey