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Thrasil said:
saw this yesterday, could not believe it, looked like every kit of 32gb ram on WW has nearly doubled in price
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Yup bloody scary actually, even Takealot has had price jumps.
SSDs are slowly increasing as well.
I am so glad I did my upgrades from June through to end of August.
 
Oh well, that puts paid to my idea of possibly building a new PC this Christmas period.
 
Yoh, I still complained about the R2100 for my 32g early in the year.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Oh well, that puts paid to my idea of possibly building a new PC this Christmas period.
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Dude try and do it ASAP, it is going to be even worse after Dec, anything and every related to memory is increasing with 100% or more.

Nvidia is increasing pricing after Dec.
Ram is going up even more
SSD's and m.2 drives going up as well
Intel CPU shortages
Normal HDD's has stock issues as well.
MSI stock shortages as well, with motherboards and GPU's stock drying up quickly, it is going to hit other manufactures soon as well, and motherboard prices will skyrocket as well.

Pretty much everything is going to shyte. If you can upgrade now, sure it costs more, but it is going to cost even more next year, and don't expect the pricing to come down any time soon either.

In August when I did my upgrade, there were already stock shortages.
 
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ToxicBunny said:
Oh well, that puts paid to my idea of possibly building a new PC this Christmas period.
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Carbonite is your friend here.

That being said, I found a good deal on Marketplace a few weeks ago, from a guy who was emigrating.
 
Bought Ram beginning of the year 32GB 3600 Ram for R1600, same kit is going for R3650. That is more than 100% increase another R2000 on top.

That's crazy.

Looks like when buying PC parts you need to wait for the right moment or buy part here and there not everything as the same time anymore, and wait for specials.
 
PhireSide said:
Carbonite is your friend here.

That being said, I found a good deal on Marketplace a few weeks ago, from a guy who was emigrating.
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I have been scoping out carbonite past 3 months daily. People are holding on to their hardware, very little 14th gen intel kits, same with AMD. If guys do put up newer stuff, you will still be paying through your ass.
 
Quicks said:
Bought Ram beginning of the year 32GB 3600 Ram for R1600, same kit is going for R3650. That is more than 100% increase another R2000 on top.

That's crazy.

Looks like when buying PC parts you need to wait for the right moment or buy part here and there not everything as the same time anymore, and wait for specials.
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Nope get it NOW, while you can, it will only increase even more.
 
wizardofid said:
Dude try and do it ASAP, it is going to be even worse after Dec, anything and every related to memory is increasing with 100% or more.

Nvidia is increasing pricing after Dec.
Ram is going up even more
SSD's and m.2 drives going up as well
Intel CPU shortages
Normal HDD's has stock issues as well.
MSI stock shortages as well, with motherboards and GPU's stock dyring up quickly, it is going to hit other manafactures soon as well, and motherboard prices will skyrocket as well.

Pretty much everything is going to shyte. If you can upgrade now, sure it costs more, but it is going to cost even more next year, and don't expect the pricing to come down any time soon either.

In August when I did my upgrade, there were already stock shortages.
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Problem is I have other big bills loading and they are somewhat more important than a PC.

If things go to shyte, it just means I don't have a PC to play games and have to live with a Laptop for a while longer.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Problem is I have other big bills loading and they are somewhat more important than a PC.

If things go to shyte, it just means I don't have a PC to play games and have to live with a Laptop for a while longer.
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It is a pity then :(. But yeah I am starting a lube business soon, will contact diddy to get hints and tips. The secondhand market is going to follow suit as well.

Apparently there is another GPU shortage happening, some manufactures have been pumping out GT730's like crazy, and the prices on those 1.6k to 2k for a GT730. WTAF.......
 
wizardofid said:
It is a pity then :(. But yeah I am starting a lube business soon, will contact diddy to get hints and tips. The secondhand market is going to follow suit as well.

Apparently there is another GPU shortage happening, some manufactures have been pumping out GT730's like crazy, and the prices on those 1.6k to 2k for a GT730. WTAF.......
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Don't worry guys, I have enough Vaseline to go around for those buying PC's in the next while...

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In terms of graphics card upgrades, many of them (thinking 9070 XT or 5070 Ti) require three 8-pin PCIe-5 connecters.

Ideally they should be coming from three separate rails or ports on the PSU side but I realized this week that my Cooler Master 750W PSU only has two rails on the PSU end and each PCIe-5 cable is split into two 8-pins on the graphics card side (hence advertised as having 4 x PCIe connecters).

Can I get away with getting power from two rails across three 8-pin connecters going into a 9070 XT or 5070 Ti safely?

The cheaper or more entry level models in this category seem to specify only two 8-pin connecters required, so am I restricted to those models (barring a PSU upgrade)?

Edit: the psu I currently have is a:

MPY-7501-AFAAG-WO
Cooler Master MWE GOLD 750W ATX PSU; 80+ Gold; Fully Modular
 
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RogueTr00per said:
In terms of graphics card upgrades, many of them (thinking 9070 XT or 5070 Ti) require three 8-pin PCIe-5 connecters.

Ideally they should be coming from three separate rails or ports on the PSU side but I realized this week that my Cooler Master 750W PSU only has two rails on the PSU end and each PCIe-5 cable is split into two 8-pins on the graphics card side (hence advertised as having 4 x PCIe connecters).

Can I get away with getting power from two rails across three 8-pin connecters going into a 9070 XT or 5070 Ti safely?

The cheaper or more entry level models in this category seem to specify only two 8-pin connecters required, so am I restricted to those models (barring a PSU upgrade)?
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See this a lot on PCMR reddit.

Yes, you can, but its not recommended.

EDIT: If you go 5070TI, see if you can rather upgrade your PSU to go with it.
 
RogueTr00per said:
In terms of graphics card upgrades, many of them (thinking 9070 XT or 5070 Ti) require three 8-pin PCIe-5 connecters.

Ideally they should be coming from three separate rails or ports on the PSU side but I realized this week that my Cooler Master 750W PSU only has two rails on the PSU end and each PCIe-5 cable is split into two 8-pins on the graphics card side (hence advertised as having 4 x PCIe connecters).

Can I get away with getting power from two rails across three 8-pin connecters going into a 9070 XT or 5070 Ti safely?

The cheaper or more entry level models in this category seem to specify only two 8-pin connecters required, so am I restricted to those models (barring a PSU upgrade)?
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Pending how old the PSU is, and ATX standard more than likely to be a single rail PSU, unless it is a super old PSU. Multi rail PSU's aren't a thing anymore, and have been in declined for a couple of years now, due to the shift and focus to 12volt generation, and needing less and less 3.3 and 5 volt generation, this resulted in new topologies that take advantage of it.

You most likely have a single rail PSU, and technically speaking it wouldn't matter which cable or how many cables you draw from as it all comes from the same rail, so it really doesn't matter.

If you have a multi rail PSU it is an old topology and wouldn't trust it as far as I can throw it with a modern system.


The question rather should be how good the OCP is and whether it is overzealous with spike loads

Posting your exact model number of the PSU will help to figure out what is what.... But yeah, load balancing on the 12volt rail hasn't been a thing for years, due newer topologies and single rails
 
wizardofid said:
Posting your exact model number of the PSU will help to figure out what is what.... But yeah, load balancing on the 12volt rail hasn't been a thing for years, due newer topologies and single rails
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Thanks for all that info

The psu I currently have is a:
MPY-7501-AFAAG-WO
Cooler Master MWE GOLD 750W ATX PSU; 80+ Gold; Fully Modular
 
Rayne said:
See this a lot on PCMR reddit.

Yes, you can, but its not recommended.

EDIT: If you go 5070TI, see if you can rather upgrade your PSU to go with it.
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Just trying to avoid a PSU upgrade, perhaps in a year or so it's time for a full pc upgrade, minus the gfx card.
 
wizardofid said:
Pending how old the PSU is, and ATX standard more than likely to be a single rail PSU, unless it is a super old PSU. Multi rail PSU's aren't a thing anymore, and have been in declined for a couple of years now, due to the shift and focus to 12volt generation, and needing less and less 3.3 and 5 volt generation, this resulted in new topologies that take advantage of it.

You most likely have a single rail PSU, and technically speaking it wouldn't matter which cable or how many cables you draw from as it all comes from the same rail, so it really doesn't matter.

If you have a multi rail PSU it is an old topology and wouldn't trust it as far as I can throw it with a modern system.


The question rather should be how good the OCP is and whether it is overzealous with spike loads

Posting your exact model number of the PSU will help to figure out what is what.... But yeah, load balancing on the 12volt rail hasn't been a thing for years, due newer topologies and single rails
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Dangerous to assume specs of the PSU he never named.

For a 5070TI use a single-cable 12VHPWR or 12V 2X6.

Failing which if using an adapter each 8 pin cable must come directly from the PSU. Not daisy-chained.
 
Rayne said:
Dangerous to assume specs of the PSU he never named.

For a 5070TI use a single-cable 12VHPWR or 12V 2X6.

Failing which if using an adapter each 8 pin cable must come directly from the PSU. Not daisy-chained.
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Not really, mate, I know a thing or two about power supplies. Which is why I ask what power supply, if it is in the last 10 years it is likely a single 12 volt rail PSU. There has been a large switch over to single rail and new topologies. He mentioned the brand, and it was a pretty safe guestimate that it would likely be single rail. Guess what, it is a single rail. Multi rail is more likely in higher capacity power supplies above 1.3kilowatt. If it has multi rails at 750 watt, it is an old design, not suited to modern systems.

Running a 5070 or 9070 of a PSU like this with adapter shouldn't be an issue as it is a single rail. As I said in the previous post, it is more about the OCP and however zealous the OCP is with regard to spike loads.

That said, his model is the first version of the series from around 2019, while there is no inherent reason why he can't run a 5070 or 9070 on it, there are other problems.

While the LLC resonant topology is pretty solid and a good design and used in some platinum PSU's, it is an older PSU so likely seen some years, so I wouldn't recommend running a 5070 or 9070 as it has derated a fair bit, which could make it even more sensitive to spike loads.

It is more an issue with the OCP being triggered by spike loads. The power draw is irrelevant as it is a single rail PSU, splitting the power draw over two connectors ports is MORE than enough for a 5070 or 9070, neither card is drawing close to 600 watts nor is the spike load that high, with the spike load being 450 for 5070 and 360ish for the 9070.

The recommendation here would be to go for a 9070 here with PCIe connectors less likely to run into issues.


But I would still rather recommend getting a new power supply regardless.
 
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