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Gtx Gaming said:
Can't really use 4 ram slots on am5, the memory controller dont like it. Lucky to get anything close to rated speeds with 4 dimms
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Yip which is why I'm recommending the 2 slot board, decent compromise while still having 2 x m.2 slots, CL36 is fine as well, that way you can just about get the 9900x in there. I would get cheaper case. If it was a lesser CPU would have pushed for cl38, ram but that would bottleneck the 9900x a bit, cl36 with EXPO enabled should give about cl32 performance give or take.

Would also go for the ID cooling 410 and save a couple bucks more, the TDP for the 410 is 220watts, 9900x is 170 watts, the a620 is only 23 watts more.

It is otherwise a pretty solid build. The image is cut off. I assume he has a m.2 drive as in there.
 
AMD hasn't published any notice, but it seems that they have silently retired RDNA 1 and 2. RIP. It will still receive vulnerability patches, like Polaris and Vega. RDNA 2 is not old, but it had a good run. Feature-level wise, it was well supported with new and upgraded tech stacks. I can't say the same about RDNA 1.

Yes, in argument, continued support is possible in Linux, but the product is retired. There is only so much you can do with the architecture and bespoke parts. Emulation is copium. Just because you can emulate something, and it works, doesn't mean that it is working well to a standard.

I hope that AMD will provide clarity. RDNA 2 sales didn't end all that long ago, and the product was repackaged.

Something tells me that RDNA 3 might succumb under this same guillotine should AMD decide to sandbag RDNA 3 and call it quits. RDNA 5 is also rumored to come Q2/Q3 2026, please note, it is rumored.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
AMD hasn't published any notice, but it seems that they have silently retired RDNA 1 and 2. RIP. It will still receive vulnerability patches, like Polaris and Vega. RDNA 2 is not old, but it had a good run. Feature-level wise, it was well supported with new and upgraded tech stacks. I can't say the same about RDNA 1.

Yes, in argument, continued support is possible in Linux, but the product is retired. There is only so much you can do with the architecture and bespoke parts. Emulation is copium. Just because you can emulate something, and it works, doesn't mean that it is working well to a standard.

I hope that AMD will provide clarity. RDNA 2 sales didn't end all that long ago, and the product was repackaged.

Something tells me that RDNA 3 might succumb under this same guillotine should AMD decide to sandbag RDNA 3 and call it quits. RDNA 5 is also rumored to come Q2/Q3 2026, please note, it is rumored.
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Not supporting a product you put on shelves 3 years ago is pathetic.

Scraping the barrel by reducing the cycle.
 
wizardofid said:
derp derp derp derp
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OP: Hi guys 3x cables like the manufacturer says or just 2 because I have just 2?
Me: Be careful if you use just 2. Rather buy a new PSU.***
You: Doesn't matter how many cables you use.
Me: Hey! Dangerous advise.
You: Goes off on a tangent about OCP.
Me: Reminds you the issue is burning cables on GPU side not OCP PSU side.
OP: OP: Hmmm guess new PSU it is which one?
You: Goes off on a tangent. Ends short-novel with a hint of understanding.
You: Links OP to a 1300W.
Me: (Thinking) Holy **** my guy he is buying a 5070 not a 5090 but ok?
You: Tells OP to rather buy a new PSU.***

Communicating with you is like navigating a maze. Your mind wanders every which way. Anyone ever tell you that?
 
 
L-Dog said:
Looking at maybe adding this Mobo and Cooler



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That board you linked is AM4 so it won't be compatible with your CPU and RAM choice.

I'd get the Thermalright Peerless Assassin if it fits your case. A bit more expensive, but I have heard only good things about them.
 
PhireSide said:
That board you linked is AM4 so it won't be compatible with your CPU and RAM choice.

I'd get the Thermalright Peerless Assassin if it fits your case. A bit more expensive, but I have heard only good things about them.
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R799 from Takealot for the Peerless Assassin, was considering swapping the ID-cooling A620 I've got in my system for the Peerless Assassin, as I put that in my sons machine, he's only cooling a 5700x3d and I'm trying to cool a 9700x.
 
L-Dog said:
Looking at maybe adding this Mobo and Cooler



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What CPU are you going for ? the ryzen 5 or the ryzen 9 ? Ideally you want two fans on the cooler this only has only. Stick with a620 or 410 from ID cooling, while the cooler is good, it isn't really suited to higher end CPUs
 
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Rayne said:
Not supporting a product you put on shelves 3 years ago is pathetic.

Scraping the barrel by reducing the cycle.
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I am surprised that RDNA 2 is being phased out. It may not have any AI accelerators, but it doesn't lack instruction set support. This is ignoring FP8. In my opinion, it should still be good at ML2CODE applications.

The issue I think that AMD has is that they can't make the GPU operable with upcoming DXR and Vulkan implementations. In theory, some APIs should be supported, even by the stack that Nvidia has already deployed. Both RDNA 2 and RTX 30 support up to Shader Model 6.7, and RTX 30 supports up to Shader Model 6.8. I am not diving into that, but that is where the restrictions begin. Nvidia is planning to provide limited RTX 20 support. There is a slight chance that Nvidia might expose its tech stack on that end to other GPUs, but only time will be able to tell. Besides, AMD would need to incorporate it, too, within its driver stack.

Sad to see this happening to RDNA 2. AMD is punching in the AI leagues now.

I do think that RDNA 4 might see 8 years.
 
wizardofid said:
What CPU are you going for ? the ryzen 5 or the ryzen 9 ? Ideally you want two fans on the cooler this only has only. Stick with a620 or 410 from ID cooling, while the cooler is good, it isn't really suited to higher end CPUs
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WAs looking at the Ryzen 5 9600X. Basically have +-R25k to try build the best bang for buck pc consindering the cas elimitations
 
L-Dog said:
WAs looking at the Ryzen 5 9600X. Basically have +-R25k to try build the best bang for buck pc consindering the cas elimitations
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Okay that gives us something to work with then. Do you need m.2 drive as well ? would you be fine with 1 m.2 drive ? I honestly would try and push to get the 9900x in that build. It would last a bit longer.
 
L-Dog said:
WAs looking at the Ryzen 5 9600X. Basically have +-R25k to try build the best bang for buck pc consindering the cas elimitations
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Under 25k Pretty well balanced no cut corners. Might not be the ryzen 9 but the ryzen 7 is a step up, from the planned ryzen 5 at least. I tried to get the 9900x in but you have to cut a few corners for lesser quality parts and less feature rich, motherboard, honestly then it isn't worth it then. It is not the best m.2 but it will still be faster than equivalent SSD. Plus you have a free m.2 slot to upgrade later when, prices aren't as insane, that is going to take at least a year at this rate.

Just follow this link and you should be golden.
 
wizardofid said:
Under 25k Pretty well balanced no cut corners. Might not be the ryzen 9 but the ryzen 7 is a step up, from the planned ryzen 5 at least. I tried to get the 9900x in but you have to cut a few corners for lesser quality parts and less feature rich, motherboard, honestly then it isn't worth it then. It is not the best m.2 but it will still be faster than equivalent SSD. Plus you have a free m.2 slot to upgrade later when, prices aren't as insane, that is going to take at least a year at this rate.

Just follow this link and you should be golden.
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Thanks this was the original build https://builder.wootware.co.za/pc?s...062,47075,47243,47372,48135,50591,50901,51660


Will see what parts I can pick up over the next month over black friday. Also keen on a 2TB SSD
 
L-Dog said:
Thanks this was the original build https://builder.wootware.co.za/pc?s...062,47075,47243,47372,48135,50591,50901,51660


Will see what parts I can pick up over the next month over black friday. Also keen on a 2TB SSD
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SSD's, m.2 and ram is going up almost weekly now, and is going to see a major price increase of 60% in the next month, GPU's may or may not get a price jump scare, so would think about that as well.

Keep a super close eye on BF alleged pricing, keep https://scrapy.co.za/ handy...,, I really can't say if there will be any good deals come BF and not likely to be a wide selection given the current shortages and problems.

But good luck happy hunting !!!!
 
wizardofid said:
SSD's, m.2 and ram is going up almost weekly now, and is going to see a major price increase of 60% in the next month, GPU's may or may not get a price jump scare, so would think about that as well.

Keep a super close eye on BF alleged pricing, keep https://scrapy.co.za/ handy...,, I really can't say if there will be any good deals come BF and not likely to be a wide selection given the current shortages and problems.

But good luck happy hunting !!!!
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Thanks yeah have some quotes from 2-3 months ago so will compare the parts, also no idea if there will be any good deals but saving a thousand bucks here or there will definately help .
 
L-Dog said:
Thanks yeah have some quotes from 2-3 months ago so will compare the parts, also no idea if there will be any good deals but saving a thousand bucks here or there will definately help .
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Specs might end up a little different, you have the baseline prices, try and stick within the price bracket and you should be fine.
You should try an aim for the ryzen 7, 90XX series, if you can get really worthwhile discount on the 7000 series it wouldn't terrible.
Just stay away from the 8000series if you can those are budget chips with reduced cache.
 
For RDNA 1 and 2 owners, I will leave this here:


And, this:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1985197364781678804

Fun new task for hardware reviewers: closely checking AMD's driver releases to ensure "game support for new releases" is applied at the same time to RDNA 2 and RDNA 4

If AMD are going to change their driver notes and clarify that new game support actually does apply to RX 6000 (previously the notes said otherwise), we'll check in on that

If AMD sneakily put RDNA1/2 into "maintenance mode" anyway where the driver branch is not updated for months, it'll become clear quite quickly. Hopefully they aren't lying or misleading gamers
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Feature updates and game optimizations aren't one and the same. RDNA 1 is now long, "Feature-completed". I don't know about RDNA 2, but architecturally, it has reached its limits; however, it does have limited rocWMMA support. The raster, compute-ahead, days are over. It is all neural tech stacks now. Time will tell which games will still be supported on RDNA 1 and 2, and non-RTX GPUs, and whether it will be optimised. Cooperative Vectors are supported on all RTX GPUs. At this point in time, the only RDNA GPU that supports it is RDNA 4. RDNA 3 not supporting Cooperative Vectors might be its Achilles heel, too. AMD is also pushing Work Graphs support past RDNA 3 ahead to RDNA 4. When RDNA 3 will get it in its main branch is unknown. Without this, don't expect FSR 4 and Redstone on RDNA 3.

Once game development adopts DXR 1.2, the new Vulkan libraries, and the new GPU tech stacks, well, then we will see which GPUs are still supported.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
For RDNA 1 and 2 owners, I will leave this here:


And, this:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1985197364781678804



To Add:

Feature updates and game optimizations aren't one and the same. RDNA 1 is now long, "Feature-completed". I don't know about RDNA 2, but architecturally, it has reached its limits; however, it does have limited rocWMMA support. The raster, compute-ahead, days are over. It is all neural tech stacks now. Time will tell which games will still be supported on RDNA 1 and 2, and non-RTX GPUs, and whether it will be optimised. Cooperative Vectors are supported on all RTX GPUs. At this point in time, the only RDNA GPU that supports it is RDNA 4. RDNA 3 not supporting Cooperative Vectors might be its Achilles heel, too. AMD is also pushing Work Graphs support past RDNA 3 ahead to RDNA 4. When RDNA 3 will get it in its main branch is unknown. Without this, don't expect FSR 4 and Redstone on RDNA 3.

Once game development adopts DXR 1.2, the new Vulkan libraries, and the new GPU tech stacks, well, then we will see which GPUs are still supported.
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Turning on DX12 for Mechwarrior 5 and my FPS shot up to a nice stable 200fps.
 
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