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Visser

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New web hosting company (giving away 3 hosting accounts)

Hi webmasters

We are looking at starting a new cost-effective hosting company for South Africans. Hosting will be on US servers and currently we are looking at Linux hosting.

I am also looking for 3 webmasters who are interested in a 1 year free hosting on our Bronze package - 1gb storage and 10gb bandwidth - (More info here - Please note that our website is not actively in service as yet.). I need to check that everything is working fine before we officially launch the service.

If you are interested, shoot me a PM with your domain name you want to host as well as your email address and I will have you up and running.

I will appreciate any comments and suggestions from the webmasters I am giving the free hosting to.
 
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Doesn't hosting internationally hurt your local page rank? With GeoLocation being the "big thing" at the moment, surely this is something to consider..?
 
No, Google wrote about this before - knowing that the US hosts 89% + of the Internet
 
It hurts your local ranking of pages in Google Search. I have done some research on my own about this, and about 60-80% of traffic you will get would be from the US itself because you host there. (Organic searches) And 40-20% are international, UK/Europe (Eastern Europe, Russia, they suck) etc

Hosting locally would always be better even though Google obviously can't negatively impact anyone's ranking because of it, but it does help a LOT.

p.s Please don't confuse Page Rank with rankings in Google Search result. It's entirely different systems altogether. Page Rank won't ever be affected by where you host and where your services are. But SERP rankings will be.
 
I don't think you can draw that conclusing that it's traffic from the U.S. just because you're hosting there, I've a site in the UK, hosted in the UK and that same high ratio of traffic is from the U.S.
Conclusion - The U.S. has more PC's online than the rest of the world put together.
 
AcidRaZor said:
It hurts your local ranking of pages in Google Search. I have done some research on my own about this, and about 60-80% of traffic you will get would be from the US itself because you host there. (Organic searches) And 40-20% are international, UK/Europe (Eastern Europe, Russia, they suck) etc

Hosting locally would always be better even though Google obviously can't negatively impact anyone's ranking because of it, but it does help a LOT.

p.s Please don't confuse Page Rank with rankings in Google Search result. It's entirely different systems altogether. Page Rank won't ever be affected by where you host and where your services are. But SERP rankings will be.
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Hi Acid

I dont agree with you. I had about 400 websites and all of them showed the majority of visitors from the US. I hosted in the US, Uk, SA, Australia, China and a few other countries. Only one or two sites showed more visitors from India and Pakistan.

Drake is right, this is simply because the US has more internet users than the rest of the world.
 
The words "is simple because the US has more internet users than the rest of the world" is laughable and discredits whatever you two are saying...

China ranks #1 for internet users in the world. They only have an internet penetration of 26.9% compared to America (#2) with a 74.1% internet penetration
Japan ranks #3 with an internet penetration of 75.5%
India ranks #4 with an internet penetration of only 7% (imagine if that reaches 20%)
Brazil is at number 5 with a penetration of 34%

With the amount of growth in penetration/households getting internet in the top 5 contenders, America and Japan is the only countries to have a growth rate of less than 1200% annually. In fact, America is growing at approx. 138% compared to Japan's 101% growth. Brazil only grew 1250% where as the rest are above 1500% growth mark. (Source: http://www.internetworldstats.com/top20.htm)

So you're really going to sit there and say that most your traffic comes from the USA because there are more internet users THERE than in the entire world? or even that when you hosted in China (which, seeing is believing... remember, hosting is not equal to having a domain with a .cn ending) that you had more US visitors on your Chinese hosted server than actual Chinese?

Naw man, I've been in this game too long to have the wool pulled over my eyes. I'm telling you now. Google gives preference to country specific hosted sites as your site targeted at South Africans will show up less in Google when someone in South Africa search for specific keywords TO hit your site via an organic search.

It's not only me with this notion, I know several guys who does SEO for a living and ONLY organic search methods and they all agree. If you want to target US, host there, if you want to target UK, host there. If you want Europe, host there... etc else you won't be getting as much out of your little website as you could if you're not.

However, there are many other factors Google takes into consideration which would make the 10 or 30% extra visitors you could have had to your sites m00t... but that's only in rare cases.
 
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Here's a few things you could read up on from trusted sources who knows WTF they're doing as well so that I can throw that whole "I know a guy" scenario out the window with some proof:

http://searchengineland.com/let-google-know-the-geographic-location-of-your-site-12574

Country association is used both in overall ranking (for instance, searchers in Canada will see a greater number of Canadian sites than searchers in the United States will) and in country-restricted searches (for instance, searchers on google.co.uk can choose to see only “pages from the UK”).
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Here's a way to check how your ranking for search terms differs worldwide based on your server's geographic location (if you haven't bothered to set it in Webmaster Tools):

http://searchengineland.com/see-google-results-from-any-country-with-firefox-extension-11700

Here's an article speaking about the same thing written February of this year, and how it impacts Global Companies hosting their sites in one place and how that negatively affects their search rankings in other countries (seeing as it's a global company, it should rank for it's targeted search terms almost equally, but it doesn't):

http://searchengineland.com/global-vs-local-how-to-let-google-know-how-to-treat-your-site-36192

And another article from November 2009 covering linking strategies and also quoting the all-important "location location location" line:

http://searchengineland.com/the-new-rules-of-international-link-building-28954

Rule 1: Location, location, location is everything

The most obvious new parameter to consider is location of the site on which a link originates—or perhaps more appropriately, where the search engines believe the link originates. To succeed in a specific geographic region, you are going to need not only good content targeted at that region and in the correct language, but also links to your site from within that region. So, if your target is to sell tire fitting to Austrians, you need a site in German and you need to acquire links from within Austria.

What does that expression “within Austria” actually mean? When you start to consider this question closely, you begin to realize just why local domains really are so crucial outside of the US. There are really only two factors which make any sense—an IP address from an Austrian server or a ‘.at’ domain for Austria.

If you’re running a hosting company serving a particular market—such as Austria—you’re going to want to be competitive and you’re going to want a good connection to the backbone of the internet. This makes it attractive for smaller hosting companies based in many smaller markets to sell—or rather to re-sell—hosting space which sits on servers which may not be located directly in Austria but might actually be in the US, UK or other country where servers resources are easier and more cost-effective to come by. In other words, not physically hosted in Austria.

What this means is that, when choosing a local link partner, the easiest way to be sure that a link from an Austrian organization is treated by search engines as a fully-fledged genuine 100% Austrian link is for it to be coming from a site with a ‘.at’ domain.
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So tell me again how wrong I am and how you're not agreeing with me please? :p
 
AcidRaZor said:
It hurts your local ranking of pages in Google Search. I have done some research on my own about this, and about 60-80% of traffic you will get would be from the US itself because you host there. (Organic searches) And 40-20% are international, UK/Europe (Eastern Europe, Russia, they suck) etc

Hosting locally would always be better even though Google obviously can't negatively impact anyone's ranking because of it, but it does help a LOT.

p.s Please don't confuse Page Rank with rankings in Google Search result. It's entirely different systems altogether. Page Rank won't ever be affected by where you host and where your services are. But SERP rankings will be.
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100% correct, id know because im a Web Developer and SEO specialist
 
http://www.youtube.com/user/GoogleWebmasterHelp#p/u/10/keIzr3eWK8I

I had a few sites we hosted on German server which Google automatically included in it's German results and not the (intended) UK results. I simply changed the geographic target via Webmaster Tools and the sites now show up in UK searches as intended. So from the looks of it by default the ccTLD is first looked at (a co.za would automatically have it's geographic target set to SA), then they have a look at the server IP which (from what I see) which can be "overridden" via the Webmaster Tools geographic target setting.
 
DarkStreet said:
http://www.youtube.com/user/GoogleWebmasterHelp#p/u/10/keIzr3eWK8I

I had a few sites we hosted on German server which Google automatically included in it's German results and not the (intended) UK results. I simply changed the geographic target via Webmaster Tools and the sites now show up in UK searches as intended. So from the looks of it by default the ccTLD is first looked at (a co.za would automatically have it's geographic target set to SA), then they have a look at the server IP which (from what I see) which can be "overridden" via the Webmaster Tools geographic target setting.
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Spot on. It's not impossible to host in the US with your target audience in SA for example, as long tld corresponds or (in the case of Visser having .com) need to set it up in Webmaster Tools as explained by the various articles.

However, your back linking strategy needs to have it's traffic come from "pure" sources, aka ZA
 
in reply to the people talking about google page ranking, please read this: http://websitehelpers.com/seo/

Page ranking is affected by too many things to just pin point one or two things - ultimately if your website has RELEVANT content you shouldn't be worried whether your page rank will be affect by a change in servers.
 
modenworldweb.com said:
in reply to the people talking about google page ranking, please read this: http://websitehelpers.com/seo/

Page ranking is affected by too many things to just pin point one or two things - ultimately if your website has RELEVANT content you shouldn't be worried whether your page rank will be affect by a change in servers.
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I can only see myself mentioning Page Rank here, and it hasn't been discussed. Page Rank isn't determined by the content (or relevancy of it) on your website, but incoming and outgoing LINKS... go read up more on the subject including the awesome math they use to calculate page rank, then come back and comment.
 
Thanks for everyone's replies. The offer is still available for those looking for free webhosting.

We offer 6 months free hosting on our Silver package for all new accounts.
 
Visser said:
Thanks for everyone's replies. The offer is still available for those looking for free webhosting.

We offer 6 months free hosting on our Silver package for all new accounts.
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Are you sure you are the cheapest? Otherwise I would suggest amending your signature dude.
and Good luck :)
 
Visser said:
Thanks for everyone's replies. The offer is still available for those looking for free webhosting.

We offer 6 months free hosting on our Silver package for all new accounts.
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Nice prices there but are you able to supply them in ZAR as not every body has a credit card..
 
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