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[graytg]

4Mbps wasn't around when it used to run at full speed. What I'm saying is that promoting it on a popular forum such as this will result in speeds slowing down even further. A few months ago it was 15-20kB/s, now it's 10-15kB/s, it seems to be moving towards 5-10kB/s, next you'd be lucky to get 5kB/s.

IS only has a certain capacity, and as more people sign up, the only way to maintain that capacity in order for everybody to be able to connect would be to drop the speeds for everyone and possibly reducing the amount of connections per person even further. So keep promoting it, you guys are only shooting yourselves in the foot. I've been using it for almost 3 years now, and I know for a fact that I'm not talking crap when I say that uncached used to run at full speed.

By not promoting, you only leave newshost open to only a "select few", and whats the use of that to IS. Having a few people using newshost is only an advantage for those "few" who download from there and want the full speed newshost give for themselves, which is a bit selfish.

If it wasn't for the growing numbers in newshost, im sure IS would probably have shut the newshost down by now. And as you know, IS is making a lot of revenue just by selling LOCAL bandwidth, because they know the people are gonna use it on the newshost.

So instead of blaming forums like this for promoting newshost, you should actual thank all these people buying local bandwidth and letting IS still keeping newshost going.

True, with promoting it, the speeds would decrease, but look at the bigger picture, what would be better, a few people downloading for a couple of months and having them shut it down as its not cost effective, or having a lot more people download from it and having the speeds reduced a bit for uncached stuff. Having something is far better than not having it at all and having to purchase international bandwidth for your download needs.
Now THATS shooting yourself in the foot.

 

[bullfrog]

Hi spikey24,

The newshost site is not in any way affiliated with IS and is a personal site run by myself and dabouncer. We started it to get a better clue of what is cached and what's not cached for the benefit of all the users to get higher speeds when downloading and not caching more than one version of the same file. What you are referring to is the news server and not newshost which is the name of our little site.

As for your argument, it's slightly flawed as the news server has been running for a very long time and previously there weren't as many users and speeds were great. It might be greedy I agree, but there would be no point in shutting the news server down and I highly doubt that's what IS was planning should it not bring in as much revenue on local only accounts as they had hoped. IS themselves don't actively promote the news server as much either, that's more the IS resellers that do that with the local only accounts. With the huge popularity boost the news server got from these forums, IS weren't able to keep up even after months of promised upgrades, which I believed have happened now, but the server is still quite slow. The old users will tell you how they got full speeds on all their downloads many years ago before most of the current users even knew what a news server was.

A lot of the older users tried to hush things up as they knew what was coming and they were completely right, even if it is a bit greedy. I don't mind how things are now and try to help cache as many things as I can and grab what ever is cached when it becomes cached to benefit from the greater speeds, so I can't really complain. It's just a matter of managing everything properly and if done well full speed can be gotten throughout the month.

As for your argument, there was no question about whether the news server was going to be shut down in any case. It's been running for years and should they not get many users it would have been running for years more.

 

[kiepie]

True, with promoting it, the speeds would decrease, but look at the bigger picture, what would be better, a few people downloading for a couple of months and having them shut it down as its not cost effective, or having a lot more people download from it and having the speeds reduced a bit for uncached stuff. Having something is far better than not having it at all and having to purchase international bandwidth for your download needs.
Now THATS shooting yourself in the foot.

LMAO! What nonsense!

I'm using this for more than 20 months, don't let the date of registration fool you!

The speeds reduced a bit? 1-2kb/s? That's a bit, we are talking about from 50kb/s on 512 line, down to 6kb/s! Do you call that a bit.

Well IMHO IS isn't even bothered with the IS newsserver, then they won't shoot themselves in the foot by letting something get uncached that quick, the reason for uncached is because every single person downloads different stuff.

Back in the day - IS sold 30 GIGS local and still stayed alive! Why won't they now? It's costing them more to get all the stuff the users "ask" on international bandwith!

Example:

2005: 200 users downloading 30gigs local (was cached) and 10gigs (uncached) all at full speeds!

2007: 3000 users downloading 5gigs local (cached) and 35gigs international at 5kb/s 80% of the time!

I see why IS would love more people to sign up............not!

All that doesn't complain, has no idea how stuff were!

 

[graytg]

LMAO! What nonsense!

I'm using this for more than 20 months, don't let the date of registration fool you!

The speeds reduced a bit? 1-2kb/s? That's a bit, we are talking about from 50kb/s on 512 line, down to 6kb/s! Do you call that a bit.

Well IMHO IS isn't even bothered with the IS newsserver, then they won't shoot themselves in the foot by letting something get uncached that quick, the reason for uncached is because every single person downloads different stuff.

Back in the day - IS sold 30 GIGS local and still stayed alive! Why won't they now? It's costing them more to get all the stuff the users "ask" on international bandwith!

Example:

2005: 200 users downloading 30gigs local (was cached) and 10gigs (uncached) all at full speeds!

2007: 3000 users downloading 5gigs local (cached) and 35gigs international at 5kb/s 80% of the time!

I see why IS would love more people to sign up............not!

All that doesn't complain, has no idea how stuff were!

Compare how many local accounts they sold back then, compared to now, wouldn't you also love the fact that more is being sold if you were IS?

Just be glad that we actually getting stuff local. Thats the main thing here.

 

[Highflyer_GP]

Spike call it selfish if you want, but nobody told many of the old users about it, nobody told us how to use it. We had to figure it out by ourselves. As for your argument about the server shutting down, it's been running for years, irrespective of the number of users. ADSL isn't even IS's core business, they couldn't give a stuff about a few leechers. I conceed that you're totally clueless.

 

[graytg]

Spike call it selfish if you want, but nobody told many of the old users about it, nobody told us how to use it. We had to figure it out by ourselves. As for your argument about the server shutting down, it's been running for years, irrespective of the number of users. ADSL isn't even IS's core business, they couldn't give a stuff about a few leechers. I conceed that you're totally clueless.

Would you want us to feel sorry for you that you figured it out by yourself and thats the reason why you want to be the only one using it? sorry, youre looking for sympathy at the wrong place.

 

[Highflyer_GP]

Would you want us to feel sorry for you that you figured it out by yourself and thats the reason why you want to be the only one using it? sorry, youre looking for sympathy at the wrong place.

It's interesting that you haven't replied to my other points, and only chose to single that one out. The original point was that the more you talk about it, the slower it's going to become (due to limited capacity). And while it may seem selfish not to talk about it, there is PLENTY of information available if people stop being lazy, do some research for themselves and stop acting like the rest of us owe them something for purchasing local bandwidth. The onus is on them to find out for themselves what can be done, just as many of us in the past have done. So no I'm not looking for your sympathy. You might think that you're doing people a favour by informing them about it and telling them how to use it, but you're in effect wrecking it for everybody else who is already using it.

Don't go around saying what a great service 10kB/s is, when you have no clue about the past. And especially don't go around spouting misinformed nonsense about the servers being shut down if there were a lack of subscribers, because once again you have neither a clue about the past nor IS's core business. As I said before, they couldn't give a crap about a few leechers and people unsubscribing from their local-only accounts would hardly make a dent in their bottom line.

My apologies if my posts have come across a little harsh, but it's the only way to put things in perspective.

 

[kiepie]

there is PLENTY of information available if people stop being lazy, do some research for themselves and stop acting like the rest of us owe them something

And especially don't go around spouting misinformed nonsense about the servers being shut down if there were a lack of subscribers, because once again you have neither a clue about the past nor IS's core business

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